$Freeroll NLHE MTT: 54s Bluff on the River

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Do you guys think that I could bluff on the river?




pokerstars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players


MP: 3,111 (10.4 bb)
MP+1: 5,689 (19 bb)
MP+2: 1,181 (3.9 bb)
CO: 16,603 (55.3 bb)
BTN: 17,717 (59.1 bb)
SB: 3,152 (10.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 21,037 (70.1 bb)
UTG: 8,634 (28.8 bb)
UTG+1: 3,801 (12.7 bb)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts 150, Hero posts BB 300

Pre Flop: (pot: 675) Hero has :5d4: :4d4:
6 folds, BTN raises to 600, fold, Hero calls 300

Flop: (1,575, 2 players) :6d4: :3c4: :4h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 900, Hero calls 900

Turn: (3,375, 2 players) :6h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,688, Hero calls 1,688

River: (6,751, 2 players) :qd4:
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: 6,751 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :6d4: :3c4: :4h4: :6h4: :qd4:
 
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Preflop
Standard defend.

Flop and turn
For me check-calling is very standard here. You have an OESD, but you also have some showdown value with second pair, so no need to raise and turn your hand into a bluff.

River
I guess, you are asking, if you should lead out now (donk bet) trying to make him fold a better hand. And for me the answer to that is clearly no. You still have at least some showdown value, and we dont want to pick hands as bluffs, that can actually win, if it goes check-check. So if you had a hand like 85 of hearts, that would be a candidate to bluff, but this hand has to much showdown value.

Especially in a freeroll we dont want to try to make a recreational opponent fold almost any made hand on the river. If the guy is sitting here with 77-JJ, and you lead into him on the river, he is going to call you down, and you just end up losing a bigger pot and often putting yourself on tilt.
 
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Do you guys think that I could bluff on the river?




PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players


MP: 3,111 (10.4 bb)
MP+1: 5,689 (19 bb)
MP+2: 1,181 (3.9 bb)
CO: 16,603 (55.3 bb)
BTN: 17,717 (59.1 bb)
SB: 3,152 (10.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 21,037 (70.1 bb)
UTG: 8,634 (28.8 bb)
UTG+1: 3,801 (12.7 bb)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts 150, Hero posts BB 300

Pre Flop: (pot: 675) Hero has :5d4: :4d4:
6 folds, BTN raises to 600, fold, Hero calls 300

Flop: (1,575, 2 players) :6d4: :3c4: :4h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 900, Hero calls 900

Turn: (3,375, 2 players) :6h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,688, Hero calls 1,688

River: (6,751, 2 players) :qd4:
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: 6,751 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :6d4: :3c4: :4h4: :6h4: :qd4:

When thinking about bluffing, we have to ask ourselves "what hands that are in our opponents range can we expect them to fold". In this case I think the best scenario is some 4's that you chop with and maybe A4 and K4 that beats you. Otherwise villain is calling with a better hand like 77, 88, 99 and folding hands that you're already ahead of. So my answer to you here, would be no - this is not a good spot to bluff.
 
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Do you guys think that I could bluff on the river?




PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players


MP: 3,111 (10.4 bb)
MP+1: 5,689 (19 bb)
MP+2: 1,181 (3.9 bb)
CO: 16,603 (55.3 bb)
BTN: 17,717 (59.1 bb)
SB: 3,152 (10.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 21,037 (70.1 bb)
UTG: 8,634 (28.8 bb)
UTG+1: 3,801 (12.7 bb)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts 150, Hero posts BB 300

Pre Flop: (pot: 675) Hero has :5d4: :4d4:
6 folds, BTN raises to 600, fold, Hero calls 300

Flop: (1,575, 2 players) :6d4: :3c4: :4h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 900, Hero calls 900

Turn: (3,375, 2 players) :6h4:
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,688, Hero calls 1,688

River: (6,751, 2 players) :qd4:
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: 6,751 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :6d4: :3c4: :4h4: :6h4: :qd4:

Thank you for posting

On the flop this is your board. Yes the Btn has some of this board but you have more of it as the BTN has less off suit 64 63 43 75 52s etc but you have all of it.

Therefore your action point is not river but flop.

You want to attack this flop and then smash turn as well when the 6 pairs as you can have all the set combos full house combos and straight combos on turn. This is a 3 barrel bluff spot unless your V never folds (we can never know this 100%) and you have the draw to back up your play so attack that flop with a XR put the V's stack in play let them know if they call turn they have to call off river for stacks. You do that by knowing how much to raise and bet to make the river shove close to 1 SPR or lower

There are spots that we are correct to go broke in tournaments trying to steal pots to win the whole thing and this is one of those spots.
Not as played but by attacking the flop.

If ever you want to try such an aggressive line and get the math right on the bet sizing it is in a freeroll. Prizes are great but 0 bankroll damage is great for practice.

Hope this helps
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