$Freeroll NLHE: CC Bodog Freeroll - how to make money from AK?

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$Freeroll NL HE: CC Bodog Freeroll - how to make money from AK?

Blinds 10/20, and if somebody can tell me how to obtain hand histories from bodog and convert them I will be happy to do that.
Hopefully a picture will be enough to give you the general idea of what I have done, is this the optimum way to play it :questionm
 

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it's a freeroll i see no other way to play it here. you will be called by so many weaker hands i think this is the highest EV possible. i will open shove TT+ AQs+ in freerolls.
 
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Needless to say everybody folded, so I just made the $30 from the blinds... seems like such a waste:dontknow:
 
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In my opinion it is not the best way to play AKs in the early phase of a tourney.

You are in MP1 and the pot is just 30. After your bet the pot is 1,6k. If somebody wants to call he needs a minimum equity of 49,53% (AKs, 22+).

With your all-in you showed strongness, maybe to much.

I do not think that somebody at that tabel would have called it with a weaker handrange than TT+, AJ+.

The chances preflop against one opponent with that range are 59,412% for you and 40,588% for your opponent. Thats fine.

But infact I do not think that you did get called with that range. More likely is a call from TT+. Your chances against that range are almost the other way around (40,268% to 59,732%).

A standard raise of 4xBB would have been nicer to valuate the pot. If you get a reraise behind you you can still shove your chips in the middel.

If you just get called you should continue to show strongness on the flop. If you get resistance your action depends on the structure of the flop.

If nobody calls you won exactly as much as if you would have done it with the allin, but you did not risk all your chips at once.

And do not forget: Anna Kournikova looks good but does not win that much :smile:
 
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C'mon guys, help me out here please, I'm confused! One of you says I played it perfectly, the other one thinks I'm a moose! Maybe I should start a poll here :questionm
 
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Well, first of all you are not a moose!!!

After my taste you overplayed it at this early level.

But tastes are like bottoms: they are different! ;)

Like I said, a raise of 4xBB would have been enough to show strongness here.
 
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bet too high

In a freeroll donkament this play may work - in a cc-freeroll with mostly decent players it obviously won't.

Your bet is far too high imo.

I'd bet 120 here and expect one or two callers at most - possibly by the cutoff or button or with a pocket pair, maybe AQ+AJ

But even if you bet 100 you might not get any callers at this stage of the tourney.
 
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Not the optimal play imo (early in a large field FR maybe but def. not in a CC game). At best you get called by hands that your coinflipping with. In other words you're rarely ahead when called.

What's the problem with a normal raise and playing a little postflop?
 
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What's the problem with a normal raise and playing a little postflop?
I just tried your suggestion in the CC Invasion tournament - but everybody still folded! :D I'll keep experimenting with it...
 
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going all-in very early? especially with the blinds very low, I wouldnt shove preflop because it would end up a coin flip or worse (maybe better against random donks) of couse if you make the 3x BB youre probably gonna get multiway I would go 5x raise
 
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Surely coin-flip is good if I have AK and only one caller? :dontknow:
 
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Surely coin-flip is good if I have AK and only one caller? :dontknow:

No, why should the coinflip be really good here ?

You're putting your tourney life on it.

Look at it this way:

If you had this situation a hundred times - shoving - and you get 1 caller holding a pocket pair 22-QQ you'll statistically loose

(between 52 and 55 times - if he holds KK 65 times - if he holds AA 85 times - rough numbers)

I can't speak for others but if I was at this table you wouldn't get a coinflip with me if I didn't tag you as "donk" beforehand.

I'd call your shove with KK or AA and muck the rest, yeah even 1010,JJ,QQ (even if I'm a slight favourite).

You would be favourite against any drawing hand, but in a CC freeroll these will nearly never call your pf shove at the beginning of the tourney.
 
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The other thing to remember is that you're not going to get paid off on every good (or great) hand you have. Simple fact is you may have been able to minraise it at that table and not gotten any callers.

My biggest concern going all-in with this hand in a CC freeroll is what the other people have mentioned - best case scenario, it's a coinflip, worst case scenario, you're completely dominated. If you get called in a CC freeroll, you're probably dominated.
 
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