flush draw+2 pr after turn

shinedown.45

shinedown.45

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Could have I extracted more chips here?

pokerstars Game #11229415834: Tournament #56613936, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/31 - 00:39:28 (ET)
Table '56613936 62' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Orion469 (1720 in chips)
Seat 2: Waccamaw109 (1900 in chips)
Seat 3: GQ_NDN (5060 in chips)
Seat 4: eizen111 (1300 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: tasergun1 (2455 in chips)
Seat 6: jmsangia (3675 in chips)
Seat 7: bidart (3750 in chips)
Seat 8: Sc_Nac (2270 in chips)
Seat 9: mmorales66 (1220 in chips)
GQ_NDN: posts small blind 25
eizen111: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Orion469 [Ks 9s]
tasergun1: folds
jmsangia: calls 50
bidart: calls 50
Sc_Nac: folds
mmorales66: folds
Orion469: calls 50 - looking at this now, I should have bet more just in case I did hit the flush
Waccamaw109: folds
GQ_NDN: calls 25
eizen111: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 9h As]
GQ_NDN: checks
jmsangia: checks
bidart: checks
Orion469: checks
*** TURN *** [3s 9h As] [Kd]
GQ_NDN: checks
jmsangia: checks
bidart: bets 500
Orion469: calls 500
GQ_NDN: folds
jmsangia: folds
*** RIVER *** [3s 9h As Kd] [2s]
bidart: checks
Orion469: bets 400
bidart: folds
Orion469 collected 1250 from pot
Orion469: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Board [3s 9h As Kd 2s]
Seat 1: Orion469 collected (1250)
Seat 2: Waccamaw109 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GQ_NDN (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: eizen111 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: tasergun1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jmsangia folded on the Turn
Seat 7: bidart folded on the River
Seat 8: Sc_Nac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mmorales66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Not sure Shine. On the turn you have 2 players left to act, so while its a good idea to just call the 500 trying to suck another one in, in the same time its kind of improbable that happens since they both had checked flop and turn. Plus the 500 in a 250 pot was a bit exaggerated to hope one of the other 2 calls.

I still say I'm not sure though because if you raise the turn he might fold just like he did on the river. It seems like he made a bet there just to steal the pot, because it makes no sense that he folded the river to only 400 more. Even a weak ace should call the 400, which BTW was a nice value bet you made.
 
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even though he should have called the 400, it showed that you made your flush or could have made one. i hate to slow play but i think this is one of those instances that would have warranted it. of cousre hind sight is 20 20, and knowing that he folded to your river bet. i would have checked it and hoped he bet out again, then raise.
 
NineLions

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I dunno about value raising preflop with a K9s.

I would have been tempted to take a stab at the flop because you're in position and it's been checked to you. The problem with that is that a weak Ace or some genius slowplaying a decent Ace isn't going anywhere and if the flush doesn't hit, do you call a turn bet?

The only other option I can see is betting big on the river, trying to represent a pot steal but I'm not sure how convincing that would be. Or make it at least a little bigger; 400 may look like a "please call" bet.


Edit: Joe points out the overbet of the pot on the turn which I missed. Since he checked the river, the turn bet was likely a pot steal attempt with nothing, meaning he's probably folding to anything on the river.
 
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NineLions

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even though he should have called the 400, it showed that you made your flush or could have made one. i hate to slow play but i think this is one of those instances that would have warranted it. of cousre hind sight is 20 20, and knowing that he folded to your river bet. i would have checked it and hoped he bet out again, then raise.

Villain has already checked the river.
 
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