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joeeagles
Legend
Silver Level
This hand happened a few days ago and I've been kind of reluctant to post it because I gave the answer for granted, but I've been thinking about it and there are some considerations that perhaps can be made and are starting to make me think its not as easy as I first thought. Here it goes, sorry for the format I'll try to make it clear.
The tourney is on PS, $10+$1, 180 seat, 3 players left, blinds are 1000/2000, Ante 100. Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: hero (~47000) is the SB
Seat 2: villain1 (~160000) is the BB
Seat 3: villain2 (~63000) is the button
Dealt to hero (8c7c)
villain2 : calls 2000
hero : calls 1000
villain1 :checks
This limp is suspicious because all 3 of us have been active stealing blinds, this is the 2nd level we've been going at it and there haven't been many (if any at all, can't be sure) button limps, its been just about exclusively button raises or folds, with the SB limping sometimes on button fold. It could mean something or it couldn't, I called wanting to see the flop, hoping villain1 doesn't raise, and he didn't. 2 hands before I lost a ~60k pot to big stack for being a bonehead on a Q high board, I had second pair with AT and didn't believe he had a Q. I had raised PF on the botton, he called with Q9 and hit, and I called him down, so now I'm the shortstack.
Flop: 9cAd6c
So I flop a straight flush draw. I'm the SB and I'm first to act. Pot is 6300. I decide quickly to go for a check/shove, because I know one of them will take a stab so I'm trying to get more in there instead of instashoving and taking only the 6k.
Hero checks
villain1 checks
villain2 bets ~61000 and is all in
I was very surprised by this and didn't expect it at all. He has me covered and first-in vigorish. I used up the whole clock before deciding because I just couldn't figure with what hand he would do this. Did he limp with AA? The shove wouldn't make sense. Maybe a set of 9s or 6s hoping one of us had an A? Still not sure that makes sense. Is he worried about a flush draw? I concluded there was a strong chance he had a weak Ac suited, but wasn't totally sold on it because I just know he would have raised PF with it from the button. So maybe a hand like Jc3c? In conclusion, there is no way to know how many outs you have. I'll tell you what I did after getting some opinions. Call off your stack or fold? In case you're wondering the payout structure is as follows:
1st place: $540
2nd place: $360
3rd place: $214
The tourney is on PS, $10+$1, 180 seat, 3 players left, blinds are 1000/2000, Ante 100. Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: hero (~47000) is the SB
Seat 2: villain1 (~160000) is the BB
Seat 3: villain2 (~63000) is the button
Dealt to hero (8c7c)
villain2 : calls 2000
hero : calls 1000
villain1 :checks
This limp is suspicious because all 3 of us have been active stealing blinds, this is the 2nd level we've been going at it and there haven't been many (if any at all, can't be sure) button limps, its been just about exclusively button raises or folds, with the SB limping sometimes on button fold. It could mean something or it couldn't, I called wanting to see the flop, hoping villain1 doesn't raise, and he didn't. 2 hands before I lost a ~60k pot to big stack for being a bonehead on a Q high board, I had second pair with AT and didn't believe he had a Q. I had raised PF on the botton, he called with Q9 and hit, and I called him down, so now I'm the shortstack.
Flop: 9cAd6c
So I flop a straight flush draw. I'm the SB and I'm first to act. Pot is 6300. I decide quickly to go for a check/shove, because I know one of them will take a stab so I'm trying to get more in there instead of instashoving and taking only the 6k.
Hero checks
villain1 checks
villain2 bets ~61000 and is all in
I was very surprised by this and didn't expect it at all. He has me covered and first-in vigorish. I used up the whole clock before deciding because I just couldn't figure with what hand he would do this. Did he limp with AA? The shove wouldn't make sense. Maybe a set of 9s or 6s hoping one of us had an A? Still not sure that makes sense. Is he worried about a flush draw? I concluded there was a strong chance he had a weak Ac suited, but wasn't totally sold on it because I just know he would have raised PF with it from the button. So maybe a hand like Jc3c? In conclusion, there is no way to know how many outs you have. I'll tell you what I did after getting some opinions. Call off your stack or fold? In case you're wondering the payout structure is as follows:
1st place: $540
2nd place: $360
3rd place: $214