On the bubble-Wrong Move?

[josh_dei8]

No bad beat story here, just looking for some analysis from you all to help me and others. 108 get paid, 109 left, sitting at 77th. Been card dead and flop dead for last 45 minutes and been getting blinded down and raised out of pots when in SB or BB.
Full Tilt Poker Game #8181901784: Freeroll (61680125), Table 81 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:28:55 ET - 2008/09/22
jaymann220 is feeling normal
Seat 1: puppies180 (31,597), is sitting out
Seat 2: jaymann220 (13,608)
Seat 3: harju4 (76,599)
Seat 4: jandlhart8 (8,383)
Seat 5: redsox62axe (14,515)
Seat 6: PRUDEN52 (5,987)
Seat 8: likeabadpenny (21,716)
Seat 9: Rifle35692 (10,596)
puppies180 antes 75
jaymann220 antes 75
harju4 antes 75
jandlhart8 antes 75
redsox62axe antes 75
PRUDEN52 antes 75
likeabadpenny antes 75
Rifle35692 antes 75
likeabadpenny posts the small blind of 300
Rifle35692 posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jandlhart8

puppies180 folds
jaymann220 folds
harju4 has 15 seconds left to act
harju4 has reconnected
harju4 folds
jandlhart8 calls 600
redsox62axe folds
PRUDEN52 folds
redsox62axe is sitting out
likeabadpenny raises to 3,000(i'm thinking he's going for the steal since we are at the bubble)
Rifle35692 folds
jandlhart8 calls 2,400
*** FLOP ***

likeabadpenny checks
jandlhart8 bets 1,800
likeabadpenny raises to 3,600
jandlhart8 has 15 seconds left to act
jandlhart8 raises to 5,308, and is all in
likeabadpenny calls 1,708
jandlhart8 shows

likeabadpenny shows

*** TURN ***

*** RIVER ***

jandlhart8 shows two pair, Aces and Queens
likeabadpenny shows a full house, Queens full of Aces
likeabadpenny wins the pot (17,816) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17,816 | Rake 0
Board:

Seat 1: puppies180 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: jaymann220 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: harju4 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: jandlhart8 showed

and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: redsox62axe folded before the Flop
Seat 6: PRUDEN52 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: likeabadpenny (small blind) showed

and won (17,816) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 9: Rifle35692 (big blind) folded before the Flop

I keep thinking he's second in chips, he's trying to get me off the pot thinking I'll fold to hit the money and he builds his stack. I was wrong. Oh well, finished 108, hit the money. Play and learn for the future.

 

[pantin007]

with AK in this situation i would be looking to get it in preflop, calling preflop is so weak unless u have the intention to shove over the top of someone who raises (which u didnt)
u had 12bb so i wouldnt want to open shove that so id probably raise to like 1500 or 2000 and be willing to put my whole stack in if i face a reraise
on the flop, i might have just checked and shove to villains c-bet or just shoved right there
u werent folding this hand, u just got a bit unlucky

 

[iriechief]

Really hard to get off that hand, but probably should have. No reason to risk a nice pay day at this point. Pick your spots and be patient, better to go out betting than calling, GL

 

[Unicornzndragonz]

I wouldn't have gotten away from that hand.... I hate playing at bubble time! I always want to leave the computer til it's over, but I never do. Lost count how many times I should have just walked away.

 

[pedroman7]

I don't understand why you limped with AK. This is a raising hand for sure when your first in the pot. If you limped because you were on the bubble and didn't want to get knocked out. Why not just fold? Granted both are bad plays imo. I think no matter how you played this you were going broke(just bad luck), but limping is a sure way to give someone a chance to out flop you. I think your best play would be a normal 2.5-3.5 BB raise or maybe an all-in shove wouldn't be so bad. But I think folding would be a better play than limping.

 

[nevadanick]

I agree with pedroman. It's raise or fold. In this case, I think villain would have re-raised as he had you well covered and a playable hand. He had nothing to lose calling a push on the bubble. Rifle was also a shorty and likely to fold, and he did.

AK sure does look pretty, even 'gorgeous' if they're sooooted. but looks often come with a large pricetag.

 

[TheMountainBoy]

That was a tough break and a lucky hit for them. It seems as though bad things happen on the bubble and often right before the break. I f you can just realize that making the money is the most important thing you can see to fold a big hand in a tight situation.

 

[robwhufc]

Really hard to get off that hand, but probably should have. No reason to risk a nice pay day at this point. Pick your spots and be patient, better to go out betting than calling, GL

Whereabouts would you have got off of that hand?

 

[lightning36]

Having been the bubble boy too many times, I would have folded the A-K (I am guessing that you could have easily coasted into the money since there were probably a few shorties with few options left). Once past the bubble, then you would push like all heck with a decent hand.

 

[robwhufc]

What did 108th pay in this freeroll btw?

 

[Hotkiller102]

If you wanted to win some litle cash you should have folded the hand right at the start but you played and called a raise with a-k( should have reraised him) that you lost is too bad but why should you play this hand if you only want to make some money. Just wait till someone else becomes the bubble boy.

 

[lightning36]

Oops - I think Rob is asking a good question. I missed that this was a freeroll, and I am guessing that the payout right after the bubble was next to nothing. If so, I would do the exact opposite of what I suggested earlier -- shove it all in instead of calling the 2,400 raise.

 

[i desire love]

Really depends if u wanna go for the win or ust couple spots more into cash. If your goal is the make a big payday well u gotta shove pre specially with 12bb left and if he hits one of his 3outs well, thats poker cant feel too bad bout it.

 

[josh_dei8]

What did 108th pay in this freeroll btw?

18 cents for another forums freeroll