Bad Luck or bad play by me?

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josh_dei8

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Is this bad luck or just a bad play by me? I guess I blew it on the river. Please help me with your thought.


Full Tilt Poker Game #8102731395: $100 Freeroll (60193299), Table 17 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em -
Seat 1: TBadd (8,172)
Seat 2: jadenjewell (82,458)
Seat 3: lucci15 (23,313)
Seat 4: dustydew (105,945)
Seat 5: Batsmart (47,078)
Seat 6: Mgusso (25,662), is sitting out
Seat 7: Goblin10 (34,576)
Seat 8: Sanchin420 (27,114), is sitting out
Seat 9: jandlhart8 (92,635)
TBadd antes 200
jadenjewell antes 200
lucci15 antes 200
dustydew antes 200
Batsmart antes 200
Mgusso antes 200
Goblin10 antes 200
Sanchin420 antes 200
jandlhart8 antes 200
Goblin10 posts the small blind of 800
Sanchin420 posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jandlhart8
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jandlhart8 has 15 seconds left to act
jandlhart8 raises to 6,400
TBadd folds
jadenjewell calls 6,400
lucci15 has 15 seconds left to act
dustydew has been disconnected
lucci15 is sitting out
lucci15 has timed out
lucci15 folds
dustydew has 15 seconds left to act
dustydew has reconnected
dustydew folds
Batsmart folds
Mgusso folds
Goblin10 folds
Sanchin420 folds
*** FLOP ***
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card_5h.gif
card_Kh.gif

Batsmart has been disconnected
jandlhart8 has 15 seconds left to act
jandlhart8 bets 11,200
dustydew has been disconnected
jadenjewell calls 11,200
*** TURN ***
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card_5h.gif
card_Kh.gif
card_9c.gif

dustydew has reconnected
Batsmart has reconnected
jandlhart8 has 15 seconds left to act
jandlhart8 bets 33,600
Batsmart has been disconnected
jadenjewell calls 33,600
dustydew has been disconnected
*** RIVER ***
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card_5h.gif
card_Kh.gif
card_9c.gif
card_Jh.gif

jandlhart8 bets 41,235, and is all in
Batsmart has reconnected
jadenjewell calls 31,058, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 10,177 returned to jandlhart8
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jandlhart8 shows
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card_Kc.gif
two pair, Kings and Jacks
jadenjewell shows
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card_Th.gif
a straight, Ace high
jadenjewell wins the pot (168,716) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 168,716 | Rake 0
Board:
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card_5h.gif
card_Kh.gif
card_9c.gif
card_Jh.gif

Seat 1: TBadd folded before the Flop
Seat 2: jadenjewell showed
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card_Th.gif
and won (168,716) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 3: lucci15 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: dustydew folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Batsmart folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Mgusso (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Goblin10 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Sanchin420 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: jandlhart8 showed
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and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
 
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ckenguy

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both, he stuck with the gutshot, but you should have checked the river. you had the 4th best hand by then. He was a donk for sticking around after the turn. Play the same hand many times with him, he's not gonna nail the gutshot everytime.
 
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kidpoker410

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everything looked good maybe bet a bit heavier on the flop since there is so many drawing possibilities out there. but by opp. actions he doesnt seem like he was going anywhere. id say good play against a stubborn donk. as ck said he wont hit the draw most of the time.
 
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p0K35

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wow, I'd luv to be hyper critical of your play here, but, you played the hand SOOOOO much better than donky villian.

Seriously, wtf were they thinking? The only decent move is calling allin when they hit the 4 outer on the river, when you get very unlucky. What can you say?

I play with a few chasers(calling stations?) live, and they mostly donk off their chips, but occasionally hit, and win big pots with bad beats. Instead of blowing up and rant-rave about how bad they play, I take my hit, gracefully, and complement them on "GH, The best hand won", "Best 5 0f 7 cards...", pablum, argh! Then shake hands and offer no advice, other than to encourage them to continue to play 'their game' against me.

Guess that makes them more 'fish', than 'donkey', but they generally like me, enjoy playing with me, and ATM me, many more times than their weak play will hurt me bad in a big hand. Just a little psychology there for ya...
 
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Cilderr

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it was a freeroll, so they are full of donkeys. Preflop raise was good. bet on the flop was nice, but since its a freeroll and you must know your opponent didnt have your kings beat and was on a draw(either straight or flush), I'd go all-in(yeah nice overbet) any none-heart turn that doesnt pair the board or isnt T.
 
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i think u cant be mad about your play.
freeroll its sheaty game.....
i usually push hard when i got good hands...
try to play better hands with morons ,its usually get me profit...
gl next time....
 
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hmmm, I think you made the correct bet preflop, the postflop bet is what got me.....I think you make the big bet here...maybe 20 or even 25k flush draw on the board. but then where do you go?? Beyond that, I don't know where you go...

I mean there is a flush draw a straight draw, and you don't have top kicker either. So, maybe you go all in post flop?

You also could have checked it down?? I'm leaning toward this now...(hindsight is 20/20 yanno) I"m not sure how much info you had on this guy....but once you made the post flop bet, you were going all the way..and so was he once he made the call.

This post confuses even me...I'm sorry...LOL
 
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