Aces against solid player....gold or fold?

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My trail of pokercopilot ran out so I only have his table image. Which was he seemed to be a pretty solid player. Also I OPR'd him and he had good results, so I give him credit to be a somewhat talented player.
pokerstars Game #23013366589: Tournament #127009253, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/17 19:08:39 ET
Table '127009253 231' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ABENZO (2970 in chips)
Seat 2: DR. EVIL21 (3000 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 3: mpv3 (2960 in chips)
Seat 4: bef99hwk (2980 in chips)
Seat 5: Dish4you (4880 in chips)
Seat 6: Levthon (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: jmasterrich (3700 in chips)
Seat 8: 33handicap (6150 in chips)
Seat 9: No Not Lenny (1240 in chips)
mpv3: posts small blind 10
bef99hwk: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jmasterrich [Ah Ac]
Dish4you: calls 20
Levthon: folds
Levthon is sitting out
jmasterrich: raises 60 to 80
33handicap: calls 80
No Not Lenny: folds
ABENZO: folds
mpv3: folds
bef99hwk: folds
Dish4you: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2h Qc]
Dish4you: checks
jmasterrich: bets 180
33handicap: calls 180
Dish4you: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks 2h Qc] [Qh]
jmasterrich: bets 360
33handicap: raises 600 to 960
Levthon has returned
jmasterrich: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [Ks 2h Qc Qh] [6h]
jmasterrich: checks
33handicap: bets 1140 <------very smelly value bet

what do you do in this situation? I mean maybe I am overanalyzing and its a fistpump.
 
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Pretty gross spot. If he has KQ shouldn't he jam the flop, hoping you have AK/AA?
 
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Check out that guy's OPR again. He's lost thousands in the last couple of years. Either money is no object to him, he's got bad bankroll management, or he bluffs way too much. That said, I think you're beat here.
 
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My trail of pokercopilot ran out so I only have his table image. Which was he seemed to be a pretty solid player. Also I OPR'd him and he had good results, so I give him credit to be a somewhat talented player.
PokerStars Game #23013366589: Tournament #127009253, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/17 19:08:39 ET
Table '127009253 231' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ABENZO (2970 in chips)
Seat 2: DR. EVIL21 (3000 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 3: mpv3 (2960 in chips)
Seat 4: bef99hwk (2980 in chips)
Seat 5: Dish4you (4880 in chips)
Seat 6: Levthon (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: jmasterrich (3700 in chips)
Seat 8: 33handicap (6150 in chips)
Seat 9: No Not Lenny (1240 in chips)
mpv3: posts small blind 10
bef99hwk: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jmasterrich [Ah Ac]
Dish4you: calls 20
Levthon: folds
Levthon is sitting out
jmasterrich: raises 60 to 80
33handicap: calls 80
No Not Lenny: folds
ABENZO: folds
mpv3: folds
bef99hwk: folds
Dish4you: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2h Qc]
Dish4you: checks
jmasterrich: bets 180
33handicap: calls 180
Dish4you: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks 2h Qc] Q♥
jmasterrich: bets 360
33handicap: raises 600 to 960
Levthon has returned
jmasterrich: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [Ks 2h Qc Qh] 6♥
jmasterrich: checks
33handicap: bets 1140 <------very smelly value bet

what do you do in this situation? I mean maybe I am overanalyzing and its a fistpump.
Jeez, looks like an AQ just from the way he is playing it. You say he is solid, have you seen him bluff any spots before this? What has he been going to showdowns with? Like I said, looks like AQ, maybe KQ, either of which have you crushed. Fold :(
 
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Fold u only beat AK and KJ(unlikly holding based on reads).
As played it really looks like AQ. KQ is probly jaming the flop like baudib said but either way he will show up with a flush or a Q(set of 2 maby?) so often that folding is the only option imo.
 
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The sick thing about this hand is that the turn play looks like a full house, trip queens or a flush draw (probably KhXh or JhTh), and the only one you beat on the turn got there on the river. It's definitely a river fold, and I think it's probably a turn fold as well. It's a very weird turn play to suddenly raise the turn with just a king. That would mean he flatted the flop when his hand looked good and raised the turn when it looked worse. So I think you're crushed pretty often on the turn.
 
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Im swaying to KQ, the rainbow flop allows the guy to slow play it, either that or bluffing the turn with AJ or something and following it up on the river
 
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Jeez, looks like an AQ just from the way he is playing it. You say he is solid, have you seen him bluff any spots before this? What has he been going to showdowns with? Like I said, looks like AQ, maybe KQ, either of which have you crushed. Fold :(

Yeah AQ is really what I put him on. From what I remember I hadn't seen him bluff, I think he may of been kinda of frisky taking blinds but that doesn't really mean anything here. And also the way he timed his bets and such just made it look more like strength than a bluff.

I ended up folding and finishing like 65th so I guess it was the right movein the long run :icon_sant
 
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