$7.5 NLHE MTT: Late phase, 20bb AT late position

[Boo02]

I'm plaing Turbo and Hyper soo after all i think that I Should waited for better spot.

But in that moment my way of thinking was:

My stack is definitly too small -> i cant catch bounties for anyone. I need dauble up.
My bounty was one of the highest (38$ ) soo it's very tempteting for other players. I can't just open because i will get 4 callers, propably.



pokerstars, $6.69 + $0.81 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,500/3,000 (500 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 106,084 (35 bb)
UTG+1: 143,905 (48 bb)
MP: 261,694 (87 bb)
MP+1: 79,625 (27 bb)
CO (Hero): 67,648 (23 bb)
BU: 104,603 (35 bb)
SB: 231,566 (77 bb)
BB: 91,275 (30 bb)

Pre-Flop: (8,500) Hero is CO with A♦ T♠
4 players fold, Hero raises to 67,148 (all-in), 1 fold, SB 3-bets to 231,066 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: (141,296) Q♠ Q♥ 8♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (141,296) 9♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (141,296) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 141,296

Showdown:
SB shows 4♣ 4♥ (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 64%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) shows A♦ T♠ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 36%, River: 0%)

SB wins 141,296

 

[fundiver199]

I dont see, why we cant open with 23BB. If we get several callers, we just play postflop and make some decisions from there. The issue with open jamming is, that you are not getting a good risk-reward, and you are rarely in better shape than this, when you get action.

 

[Tigroslav]

Nothing wrong with the push.
Avoiding tricky decisions on the flop with a stack size slighty above the jam or fold size.
You made money longterm.

 

[zuker]

Your M=10 and you can raise and make informative decision on flop.

 

[300HPGOD]

I see this one either way as this is right on the cusp stack size wise of jamming with hands like this or open raising. I know if we had 16-17 BBs here we would probably just jam it and roll with it being in the cutoff. 22 BBs is not much higher than 17 so I believe jamming is fine along with open raising.

Seems weird but I think I personally would open raise hands like A10, A8-A9 suited and be more prone to jam better hands like AQ+. My reasoning is that I feel like if I were to face a raise after opening with A10 (I should be min raising or close given 22 BB stack) I can fold safely (figure I would be behind most of the time) and not lose too much (although it is 10% ish of my stack). If I had a AQ+ hand the open jam at 22 BBs may make my opponents think I am on a vulnerable hand that does not want to play post flop such as 77-99 and maybe they call gambling on the flip. That might be flawed thinking depending on my opponents and maybe it is better to just always open raise there (although I think with 88 type hands we are better jamming than min opening). In any case I think your jam is an acceptable move coming with 22 BBs and being on the cutoff but its probably not the best play.

 

[eetenor]

I'm plaing Turbo and Hyper soo after all i think that I Should waited for better spot.

But in that moment my way of thinking was:

My stack is definitly too small -> i cant catch bounties for anyone. I need dauble up.
My bounty was one of the highest (38$ ) soo it's very tempteting for other players. I can't just open because i will get 4 callers, propably.



PokerStars, $6.69 + $0.81 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,500/3,000 (500 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 106,084 (35 bb)
UTG+1: 143,905 (48 bb)
MP: 261,694 (87 bb)
MP+1: 79,625 (27 bb)
CO (Hero): 67,648 (23 bb)
BU: 104,603 (35 bb)
SB: 231,566 (77 bb)
BB: 91,275 (30 bb)

Pre-Flop: (8,500) Hero is CO with A♦ T♠
4 players fold, Hero raises to 67,148 (all-in), 1 fold, SB 3-bets to 231,066 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: (141,296) Q♠ Q♥ 8♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (141,296) 9♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (141,296) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 141,296

Showdown:
SB shows 4♣ 4♥ (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 64%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) shows A♦ T♠ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 36%, River: 0%)

SB wins 141,296

Thank you for posting.

If you have a big bounty you will get callers if their range is right which is what happened.
You can just move on from this hand as shoving was fine and you lost a flip.

If you want to dive deeper into your thinking then if your V are just going to call you preflop then you can raise and stack protect post flop. With AT we raise to 2.5bb and have 17.5bb left and a pot of 11bb playing post flop is easy as it is fit or fold and we have a playable stack if we have to fold post flop.

We would often raise not shove AA in the CO and as we hold an A we are blocking AX from our V. We can rep AA here then over fold post flop especially if it goes 3 way.

In this spot if we raise then BTN calls the SB shoves we have a flip and and extra 2.5bb in pot good result. We were going to shove so why would we fold?

If the SB just calls and we go 3 or 4 way -we get to over fold post flop and play on.

yes it is important to have a large stack for bounties but chip and a chair still applies to bounty tournies at some points.
So raising has merit in this spot.


Hope this helps

 

[MrrrRock]

i push that too all day and night

 

[WrongUsername]

the push is fine, don´t be result oriented
u did the right move.