$4.40 NLHE: Should I have folded this flop?

ethon

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$4.40 NL HE: Should I have folded this flop?

Stacks:
SB with 23856
BB with 20934
UTG with 26970
BTN with 43470




Blinds: 300/600
Site: pokerstars
Dealt to BB:K♥ K♠
Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
UTG calls [600]
1 players fold.
SB calls [300] Hero raises 975 to 1575
UTG calls [975]
1 players folded.
Total folds this street: 2
Potsize: 3750
Flop: 8♠ 10♣ 4♦ Hero bets [2750]
1 players fold.
UTG raises 22575 to 25325 [ all-in ] Hero calls [16539] [ all-in ]
Uncalled bet (6036) returned to UTG
Potsize: 48364
Turn: J♦
Potsize: 48364
River: 2♣
 
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i cant see you get away from this on the flop... if villain hit a set of 44s of course ur basically dead but he'll probably just as often push with some kind of FD or straight/FD combo...

imo your pfr is way to small... the pot is 1800 and you raise it up to 1575... now the pot is 2775 and only 975 to call for villain... thats around 3:1.... you should've made it around 2200.... you dont want to make it too cheap
 
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Yeah, that was my big mistake, especially in 4-max. Villain called with 8To
 
Tonky666

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nah,i'd have played it the same...
maybe unlucky if u lost...
 
Egon Towst

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It is read-dependent, imo. How many hands have you played against villain ? Do you have any notes on him ?

His big all-in raise might be a wild bluff if he is a wild player but you have only a pair. If he is any kind of a tight player, you have to figure you are behind and have only 2 outs, which is not a good place to be.

Also, raise larger pre-flop. :p
 
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Preflop raise is small. You wanted action, you got it.
 
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I would have to agree with Egon 100 percent.It not that hard to see the difference at this level most player don't switch it up enough.I know I'm guilty.
 
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I feel you played it correctly, there was no way im folding after a flop like that.

-Rock
 
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yeah since your out of position your preflop raise needs to be much larger, id be calling here with anytwo preflop as id play the pot in position... so there was around 1800 in the pot if im reading it correctly, so a raise to around 3400 would be what id make him pay to see the flop... if he still calls with his 10 8 off then gl to him, get it in on the flop, pretty standard, only hands you really dont want to see are trips, even against that two pair i think you win around 20-25% of the time so..
 
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