$365 NLHE MTT Rebuy: 10-10 in cutoff with 2 raises and a call in front

[teepack]

This hand happened to me in the spring at the wsop Circuit Tour Stop in Cherokee. It was early in the tourney, the 3rd level. Starting stack was 10,000, and I was probably down to about 8,000 when this hand started. I had been mostly card dead, losing one hand with JJ and largely folding just about everything else. There were 8 people at the table. The guy to my immediate right had just been knocked out a few hands earlier so we were down one player.

I am in the cutoff. The BB is 100. UTG raises it to 500 and UTG+1 4-bets it to 1,000. UTG+2 folds, UTG+3 calls. Up to this point, the table had been largely nondescript, nothing really unusual. I look down at 10-10. The button and the blinds have yet to act, and the original raiser will also get another shot.

What do you do?

 

[ShoTyme]

Tough spot tee. I fold unless I picked up on something. Gotta think flip at best. It's still early and would hope to garner some much needed info. Would love to know how you played it and the outcome in a pm if you don't want to put it here.

 

[WiZZiM]

fold it and start making some raises where you are in control more.

 

[teepack]

After thinking long and hard about it, I folded for 3 reasons:

A) I felt my 10-10 was beat and at best would be a coin flip. I figured the 4-better had AA or KK or at the very worst AK (I was proven right as the hand played out).
2) There were still 4 more people to act (the lady to my left was pretty shortstacked at this point, so I was worried she would shove. I was also worried that the original raiser would re-raise and possibly shove given the number of chips that were going to be in the pot when it got back to him). I would definitely not have called a shove at that point.
C) I did not want to risk such a big chunk of chips so early just to get into what was promising to be at least a 4-way, if not 5-way pot.

As it turned out, the BB called the 1,000 bet, and the original raiser also called, so there ended up being 4 players in the pot after I folded. The flop would have been a dream for me: 10-8-3 rainbow. The BB and the original raiser checked to the original 4-better, who threw in a 5,000 chip and announced 5. It was ruled by the floor that his bet was 500 even though we all knew he meant to bet 5,000. The next guy called his 500 bet, the BB folded and the original raiser called. The turn was the 5 of spades, putting two spades on the board. The BB checked again, the original raiser bet 5,000 this time, the second guy called and the BB folded. The river was the 3 of spades. This would have given me a full house and it also gave the second guy his ace-high flush (he had the A-Q of spades). The pocket Aces shoved, and the ace-high flush called.

I would have racked up on that hand, but I still think it was the right move.

 

[ShoTyme]

Damn! Don't you hate that! I think you made the right move as well. Thanks for the update!

 

[beastisdabest]

well played. I'm not a pro by any means, but I think you made the right call. Too much action to follow you there. You cant really re-raise there without KK or AA unless its vs a known light 3-better. Basically you call and hope no one shoves while also hoping for a 10 on the flop because you know they have you beat preflop. I like your fold even though it would've worked out for you had you not.

 

[teepack]

well played. I'm not a pro by any means, but I think you made the right call. Too much action to follow you there. You cant really re-raise there without KK or AA unless its vs a known light 3-better. Basically you call and hope no one shoves while also hoping for a 10 on the flop because you know they have you beat preflop. I like your fold even though it would've worked out for you had you not.

You're rationale is exactly why I folded. Too much action still to come behind me, including a short stack who could shove at any minute and the original raiser, and I was pretty sure the 4-better had AA or KK. I would have won the hand, but I would still fold that given a similar circumstance in the future.

 

[ribaric]

I would fold 10 10 is a good card but one of the raisers has better hand 99%

 

[JPainTrainSicko]

Without any in game indications of the raise and reraise being light and at this stage in the game with your stack the fold seems correct. The action behind is dangerous if you flat and leave the door open to get moved in on by the original raiser. Without knowledge of the other players stacks and some good reads on who they are a cold 4 bet has to be ruled out. Against certain player profiles cases could be made for flatting and reraising but here at this stage the only option is a fold. Those are the runouts that make you question decisions tho