$35 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked Bounty: Fullhouse vs Top pair

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blacknight92

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Hi guys!!
When you have very good hand, and villian have top pair, is it better to go for pot raise or should I go all in?
I am analyzing all my hands where I won as well as lost to know where I can improve.

PokerStars - 40/80 Ante 8 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 137.25 BB
BB: 115.22 BB (VPIP: 28.91, PFR: 20.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 130)
UTG: 103.72 BB (VPIP: 24.16, PFR: 17.03, 3Bet Preflop: 8.91, Hands: 819)
CO: 119.17 BB (VPIP: 25.55, PFR: 9.46, 3Bet Preflop: 3.51, Hands: 368)
BTN: 135.75 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) 8 5 K
Hero bets 10.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 10.5 BB

Turn: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 31.5 BB, BTN calls 31.5 BB

Hero shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Fives)
(Pre 53%, Flop 98%, Turn 95%)
BTN mucks K Q (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 47%, Flop 2%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 94.5 BB

Posting one more hand in same post. Hope thats fine.

PokerStars - 80/160 Ante 16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 198.24 BB
BB: 51.61 BB (VPIP: 25.30, PFR: 18.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 259)
UTG: 58.77 BB (VPIP: 31.36, PFR: 21.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 171)
CO: 31.12 BB (VPIP: 24.76, PFR: 17.40, 3Bet Preflop: 8.65, Hands: 860)
BTN: 60.62 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has J:heart: K:spade:

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade: T:heart: Q:diamond:
Hero bets 1 BB, UTG calls 1 BB

Turn: (8.5 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG bets 4.67 BB, Hero calls 4.67 BB

River: (17.85 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
Hero checks, UTG bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

UTG shows 2:diamond: A:diamond: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 60%, Flop 53%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows J:heart: K:spade: (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 40%, Flop 47%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins 41.85 BB
 
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The first hand was overall very good, it's not always that you get to extract so much value for a full house.

In the second hand, I don't see the point of the 1 BB bet on the flop. You're not getting any folds and it's too small for a value bet. You could have put the UTG all in on the river. They would fold, of course, but for all you know they could have a Kx with a weaker kicker. Also, their stack wasn't big enough to scare you. Other than that you did great.
 
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Hi guys!!
When you have very good hand, and villian have top pair, is it better to go for pot raise or should I go all in?


It depends on the type of opponent you are against. There is no right play for every situation as poker is a game of changing circumstances.

Against a tight/passive player I will bet more as they are more likely to just call or fold.

If I'm playing against an aggressive player I may try to induce a raise from them by betting on the small side.

Rarely but if the pot is already decent sized I will go for the check-raise but getting checked back feels so wrong. Although the times they fall in the trap are sweet.
 
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It would always depend on the player you are against and the action to this point. On the 1st hand it was check check on the turn. If he had a king he most likely would have bet into you unless he had a very week kicker. On the river the question is what could he have called on the flop that could call this river. Yes a decent K might call but all the draws he could have had or 2nd pairs looking to see what you did on the turn like jack would probably fold here. I would have bet smaller. The 2nd hand was odd with the flop bet. I would have looked week or to be a draw. The king would have completed some of the draws on the turn so you bet looks stronger here but the 2nd king on the river most time would scare off your opponent many times so again a pot be may be a bit much. Stunned at the call you got though.
 
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As others said it depends on the players and your history with each individuals.

But I think most of the times going all in is the wrong decision - unless you are sure that they would call it - because you will likely scare them off.
 
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first hand i think bet bet bet
turn changes nothing so if he has something or want to float he will
 
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I think you played it really good for both of them
 
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