$30 NLHE MTT Rebuy: Folding Two Pair Here

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Other day played a live donkament at the local casino, and was able to triple my stack up early (Starting Stack: 8000). The chip leader ended up moving to my table super early in the tournament, and we have a little history. He thinks I play like a maniac (I don't even consider myself lag), and last tournament he was irate because I cracked his slowplayed aces with 78s. He is old and nitty and pretty bad, and he attaches to any hand he plays (i.e. very easy to value bet). Anyways he sits down with a stack that covers mine (roughly 31000) and an interesting hand ensues.

Blinds 100-200, No ante,
Action folds to me
Hero ($21,000): Button: Ah Qc
Raise to $600
SB: Fold, BB (Villain Stack: 31000): Calls, Pot: $1300
Flop: Ad 7c 8d
BB: Raise $400
Hero: Call, Pot: 2100
Turn: Qs
BB: Check
Hero: Raise $1100
BB: tanks forever.... calls (Pot: $4300)
River: 2s
BB: Shoves
Hero: ???

Hand Analysis:
Preflop: Both blinds are tight, didn't make a big raise because I wanted small blind to call/ ended up giving the villain an attractive price with his stack size.

Flop: Pretty good flop, plan on betting 1/3 pot if checked, but he bets 1/3 pot here. Now this is an interesting bet for a couple reasons, A7, A8 is in his range, and obviously pocket pairs are in his range as well. But he tends to super overbet when he hits monsters, so I doubt he's value betting a set or two pair. At this point my best guess is that he's on a flush draw (most likely KhQh).

Turn: He checks, and I'm sitting pretty. I bet $1100 as a value bet, but I probably should have bet more due to his tendencies to be hand-committed. His call seems to confirm to me that he is on a flush draw, and I cant fathom any straight draws with his nitty style (especially in the BB). Also, I just don't think he has the capability of playing a set this tricky, and now I'm indifferent to any two pair he might have had. I think he's putting me on a weak ace or a draw, because he tells me I'm too loose and reckless; so he probably thought I was trying to steal blinds initially in the preflop action.

River: Blank... He shoves. Now this is too weird. He just put $28900 into a $4300 pot, with a relatively dry board for most other hands. Part of me wants to say this shove is an silly attempt to outplay the youngster at the table, especially considering our history. The shove puts a few more thoughts into my head though.
Possible hands: KK, 78(see our history), 77, 88, A7, A8
I can't fathom a air bluff here, with 7+ hours with this guy, I have yet to see a outright bluff. I've seen him call all-in bets before with weak middle pairs, but I've never seen him shove without the best hand either.

End Result: I called
I'll tell you his hand once I get some input
 
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Jillychemung

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For this player type his range is dominated by rag Aces that have hit 2P. I wouldnt expect 77/88 as this type wouldnt check the turn with the draws on board.
 
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A2, it fits the bill. Given your history, he's trying to teach you a lesson for playing 87. :p
 
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This is a very weird spot. There are only 5 hands that the villain can have that beat you. We can pretty much rule out AA and QQ as we would expect a 3-bet pre-flop. Would villain lead to pre-flop raiser with 88 or 77? Probably not so we rule them out. By that logic he has to have 22 to be ahead. Would he play 22 this way? Possibly prior to the river - he is deep enough to make the call on the turn which would be his tendency anyway. The shove though just doesn't make sense but if he is a nitty player then would he really overshove his entire stack with 87 or A2. Really tough but I think I would have to call.
 
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Well the end result was a small shocker, he flipped over 7d2d and I took the chip lead by a significant margin. The flush draw was the right read, but fortunately when he got two pair he decided to go crazy. I never suspected a player like him to play a hand like that, but I guess the old guy had some tricks up his sleeve. Although he didn't play the hand particularly well, he played such a strange line that it almost worked.
 
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CALL! =) maybe not an instant call but a call lol you still have a chance hitting your boat and that's a bold move if he's chasing a flush. So trips or 2 pairs is all you're facing on the turn. You still have 1 more card
 
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CALL! =) maybe not an instant call but a call lol you still have a chance hitting your boat and that's a bold move if he's chasing a flush. So trips or 2 pairs is all you're facing on the turn. You still have 1 more card

Villain shoves the river! :D
 
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Given all the info you have provided, and the way the villain played the hand I would call here, my instinct is that he has a bust diamond draw. He tanked so long because he was trying to math out his hand and what to do on the river. Even being a NIT I dont see him calling to the river with pocket 2s, 78s maybe, if he thought you were trying to steal the blinds. And such a huge overbet on the river seems like he is trying to indimidate you and not bet sizeing for value... PS. I didn't event see your post on what he had before I replied, just saw it.
 
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Nice hand .. Great call on he river. What a sicko this villain is. :hahaha:

That will teach him a lesson or two about bet - sizing. :laugh:
 
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