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[Steveg1976]

Villian will rarely fold preflop, he will usually back down on missed flops however, so him calling was not entirely unexpected here.

Pre-flop Suited Connectors I use a blind steal hand to randomize my play that is why I raised

Stacks:
* CO with 1465
* BTN with 830
* SB with 1695
* BB with 3985
* UTG with 1250
* MP1 with 1590
* MP2 with 2685

Blinds: 50/100
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to SB:8♦ 7♦
* * Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [100]
* * 2 players fold.
* * Hero raises 300 to 400
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [300]
* * Total folds this street: 5
* * Potsize: 900
Flop:
* * 10♦ 10♥ 8♥
* * Hero bets [500] standard C-bet, I usaully c-bet about 75%
* * MP2 calls [500] I was surprised he called but still figure to be ahead as he has floated me a couple of time on the my c-bets.
* * Potsize: 1900
Turn:
* * Q♠
* * Hero bets [795] [ all-in ] On a Flush draw he has missed I shove to maximize my fold equity in the hand.
* * MP2 calls [795]
* * Potsize: 3490
River:
* * 9♠
Results:


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So what are your thoughts, a total spew or reasonable play?


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[shinedown.45]

Villian will rarely fold preflop, he will usually back down on missed flops however, so him calling was not entirely unexpected here.

Pre-flop Suited Connectors I use a blind steal hand to randomize my play that is why I raised

Stacks:
* CO with 1465
* BTN with 830
* SB with 1695
* BB with 3985
* UTG with 1250
* MP1 with 1590
* MP2 with 2685

Blinds: 50/100
Site: Pokerstars
* * Dealt to SB:8♦ 7♦
* * Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [100]
* * 2 players fold.
* * Hero raises 300 to 400
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [300]
* * Total folds this street: 5
* * Potsize: 900
Flop:
* * 10♦ 10♥ 8♥
* * Hero bets [500] standard C-bet, I usaully c-bet about 75%
* * MP2 calls [500] I was surprised he called but still figure to be ahead as he has floated me a couple of time on the my c-bets.(You contradict yourself from above statement, and in light of that I would say this is a hit flop)
* * Potsize: 1900
Turn:
* * Q♠
* * Hero bets [795] [ all-in ] On a Flush draw he has missed I shove to maximize my fold equity in the hand.
* * MP2 calls [795]
* * Potsize: 3490
River:
* * 9♠
Results:


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So what are your thoughts, a total spew or reasonable play?


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with the above info in red, I would have to say a total spew

 

[Steveg1976]

with the above info in red, I would have to say a total spew

Just for clarification:
Villian will usaully back down post flop but has floated my c-bets a couple times...is that more clear. I shoulcn't have seperated those two observations as they do appear to contradict each other.

You point is taken.

 

[switch0723]

i hate this turn shove tbh, we are only ahead of a flush draw and that still has very good equity against our hand if the flush draw includes overcards + straight draws.

The turn card is a horrid card to shove on aswell, now not only are we beaten by a slowplayed ten, but j,9 just hit, q,j that decided to peel off a gutshot + overs just hit, qhXh just hit.

So to sum up, i hate this shove because we are either crushed and drawing very slim to made hands, and we aren't that much of a favourite versus a flush draw to compensate the times when we are ahead.

I much prefer hte check/reevaluate and probably fold option

 

[Steveg1976]

for the record I think I just wanted to call him here for some reason after taking a day or two too think about it. Tilted by a weak player.

He turned over 67o and spiked a 9 on the river for the winning straight.

 

[JimmyBrizzy]

Im not even sure that I like the preflop raise. I just don't think that play is favorable w/ around 16 BB's, you are in the SB and this is a $3 SnG (so the players are not going to be thinking that in detail to your patterns.)

Especially building the pot from the SB where you will be out of position against a player you know to be a calling station just doesn't seem like a favorable decision.

I think if you are going to play the hand this way preflop the best decision would be to just push all-in on the flop. With around 50% of you present stack on the table, its not a terrible thing to just pick that entire pot up agaisnt such a loose/passive player.

 

[Steveg1976]

Im not even sure that I like the preflop raise. I just don't think that play is favorable w/ around 16 BB's, you are in the SB and this is a $3 SnG (so the players are not going to be thinking that in detail to your patterns.)

Especially building the pot from the SB where you will be out of position against a player you know to be a calling station just doesn't seem like a favorable decision.

I think if you are going to play the hand this way preflop the best decision would be to just push all-in on the flop. With around 50% of you present stack on the table, its not a terrible thing to just pick that entire pot up agaisnt such a loose/passive player.

The preflop raise was a steal attempt that is all. As for shoving the flop you are probably right as opposed to the turn. I think was just a case of me overplaying a weak a$$ hand because I thought i was better and it was my pot to win, total spew. It just didn't help that I had him beat until the river.

 

[KtarzanOB]

The pre flop raise was terrible! You do not need to randomize your play at $3 sng level for starters! Bloating a pot with such a weak hand oop defies all sng strategy! You have a very comfortable stack and yet you decide to steal against a loose player!

You are initially risking 350 to win 250 which know will probably not work(you said he rarely folds).
You cbet 500 after hitting your 8, If you missed the flop would you have cbet? For the sake of my point lets say you were going to cbet if you missed. You are risking 350 preflop +500 cbet = 850 chips to gain the initial 250 chips that were in the pot. That means you are risking about half your stack to gain 250 chips.

Your play in this particular hand afterwards was fine the way it played out. But just sticking to a standard tight strategy is best in sngs. Just dont try stealing blinds vs loose players.