$3.30 NLHE STT: set but 3 to flush call river ???????/

[papatango123]

PokerStars - $3+$0.40|15/30 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
SB: 1,520.00
BB: 1,410.00
UTG: 1,480.00
Hero (UTG+1): 1,640.00
MP: 2,960.00
MP+1: 3,070.00
CO: 1,465.00
BTN: 1,455.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has 8:spade: 8:club:
fold, Hero calls 30.00, fold, MP+1 calls 30.00, CO calls 30.00, fold, SB calls 15.00, BB checks
Flop: (150.00, 5 players) 2:diamond: 8:diamond: 5:heart:
SB bets 90.00, fold, Hero raises to 240.00, fold, fold, SB calls 150.00
Turn: (630.00, 2 players) 4:diamond:
SB bets 120.00, Hero calls 120.00
River: (870.00, 2 players) 6:heart:
SB bets 1,130.00 and is all-in, fold

 

[WiZZiM]

Shove the turn, we can't fold, ever.

 

[OzExorcist]

I'm calling - TBH I'd be more worried about a straight than a flush given villain's line. I think this is two pair or a lower set that thinks it's slowplayed you a lot of the time. I definitely can't fold this.

 

[Worak]

I've seen alot of these river shoves in similar situations lately and from what I got almost none of them were made straights or flushes.

I'd raise turn , probably shove it.

 

[Poker Orifice]

What typically donks that flop for 2/3 pot? (I Highly doubt it's a set!). Then calls raise but leads again 'small' on the turn....
To me it reeks of a flush in a big way. (but I don't play these... I'm stil shovin' the turn here too)

 

[Ravish]

Shove the turn, we can't fold, ever.

I'm curious as to the thinking behind shoving when the danger card hits...?

 

[WiZZiM]

We still get paid off by all sorts of random crap. That's the main reason.

Sure he could have the flush or straight here, and he's likely playing them in this fashion (he probably does, which is fast becoming a big gripe of mine with HA threads. They are usually losing hands, so people are quick to assume the obvious things we lose to). But he is also likely to play TP in this fashion, or two pair, or even a drawing hand still. Point is, we rarely have enough info on players to make big laydowns like this. A lot of STT is coming up with default plays, one of mine is to never fold sets to anyone but known players. This is a $3 SNG, He could have something as weak as second pair here and still be willing to get stacks in. By the turn, we are pretty much committed to the hand, there's a big pot out there, and it's certainly worth winning, calling the turn allows a few things to happen.

A bad card for us hits, and we are forced to fold to a bluff or shove with a worse hand. A bad card hits for him, and he checks the river to us, making us lose value.


I may not be correct with my line of thinking above, it's been a long time since i've played and i'm a little out of touch with my game. However i hope it leads to good debate or whatever.