$3.30 NLHE MTT: Out of position with 2 nd pair top kicker,

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limakpl

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Flopped 2nd pair top kicker but in the same time flop is very wet and hit well my opponents range. I'm out of position should I c-bet or not ? then on turn is even more ugly, so i guess i should just check/fold, no reason to continue with aggresion ?

BB: t5501 M = 40.75
UTG: t3605 M = 26.70
UTG+1: t5890 M = 43.63
UTG+2: t3100 M = 22.96
MP1: t3687 M = 27.31
MP2: t3610 M = 26.74
Hero (CO): t2875 M = 21.30
BTN: t7096 M = 52.56
SB: t2901 M = 21.49

Pre Flop: (t135) Hero is CO with A of spades T of hearts
5 folds, Hero raises to t150, BTN calls t150, 2 folds

Flop: (t435) 8 of diamonds T of diamonds Q of spades (2 players)
Hero bets t217, BTN calls t217

Turn: (t869) 2 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t417, Hero calls t417

River: (t1703) 2 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t924, Hero calls t924

Final Pot: t3551
Hero mucks A of spades T of hearts
BTN shows A of diamonds Q of diamonds (a flush, Ace high)
BTN wins t3551
 
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Turn i am fold, he bet on very coordinated board and this bet 50% of the stack look like for value.
 
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In this board without oponente information, I believe the fold is safer.
 
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Pre-flop and flop were fine but you should have check-folded the turn and you should definitely have folded the river - you were clearly behind.
 
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almost always checking the flop here, it's a flop that hits a decently wide calling range from the button. When we bet the flop we are basically hoping for folds, because on the turn we simply have no clue how to proceed. The float is such a well known play these days i'd expect players to do it even this low of a game, so if i bet the flop i'd be doing it with the intention of betting the turn also.

that being said, if i did bet, it would be small to keep the size of the pot down. but overall i think checking is way better here.

if we check and he bets we can just call and get to the turn in which we can do two things, check/decide if we want to call this guy down to the river (this also keeps all his bluffs in) or we can lead and take control on the turn with a bet, but again, we are hoping for folds more often than not, and it can put us in weird spots on rivers.
 
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I'm not looking to put many chips in on the flop. There's so much he could have and what do we have that can improve. The 9 but we only have 3 outs (that we like) because one completes the flush.

I'd raise pre and check fold this board.
 
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I would normally cbet the flop, then check fold the turn.

However, after reading WiZZiM's post, I agree with his take more.

I think check call flop and then re-evaluate on turn is good.

Cbet flop and check/fold turn is 2nd best.

I think check/folding the flop is way too weak.
 
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