$3.30 NLHE MTT Bounty: Pocket Jacks, deep into an MTT

[Rockettown]

So this question is something I've wanted opinions on for a while. I think JJ is the hand that busts me from most tournaments when i've run deep and would like to know how you play them - am I too aggressive with my Jacks?

PokerStars - $1.50+$1.50+$0.30|4000/8000 Ante 1000 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 10.58 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 40)
Hero (BTN): 18.34 BB
SB: 51.61 BB
BB: 22.09 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 31.12 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 5.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG+1: 20.96 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 40.97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP+1: 6.58 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+2: 28.92 BB (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has J:spade: J:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 18.21 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 15.21 BB

Flop: (39.05 BB, 2 players) 3:club: T:diamond: 8:spade:

Turn: (39.05 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:

River: (39.05 BB, 2 players) K:spade:




Is this line too aggressive? Or am I being results orientated? Of course I'm not upset being called by KQ here. But I feel in the deep situations I could just flat the 3x pre, then either reraise his cbet on the flop/get it in on the turn (where he hasn't yet hit a pair). I felt due to the way villain was playing, if i'd 3bet pre it would have all gone in anyway and I wanted my fold equity in play (hence jamming and not clicking back for him to jam) but is this a bad habbit?

If overcards did flop... is anyone flatting then folding Jacks to a cbet late in an mtt with 18bbs?

I'm still learning, so go easy on me. I know this stuff might seem simple to most of you I really need to relearn this spot.

 

[WiZZiM]

looks good wp

keep in mind his range will also have stuff like TT 99 88 that will call a 3bet but might fold post flop if bad cards hit. you played it fine and lost a flip, no big deal..

 

[trent32la]

Flatting with JJ here is a mistake..I can see it with hands like 55-88 but defo not JJ..at 18bb that pretty much puts you in a tighter 3bet shoving mode.....the raiser initially opened to 3x...this easily creates enough dead$ in the pot to where we can shove JJ and not make a norm 3bet...overall your shove was fine...if anything its your opponents call off I disagree with!

 

[Himanshu]

It was a good play on your part i can understand the frustration of the suck out but you were far a head on the flop you made a good read and went all in your opponent made a bad call and catch one of his outs. Pocket jacks or even pocket Queens are really hard hands to play in middle of a tournament and at times you can lose big amount of your chips or all your chips because of these hands but we have to take our chances to gain as much amount of chips as we can after all poker is a game of chance.

 

[danprince10]

Gotta jam there, UL if you run into better.

 

[RamdeeBen]

With the stack size, it's not aggressive at all. Like, you should be taking this line of 3B shoving 18bb with a wider range than just JJ vs the correct players of course.

When we have such a strong hand and our stack size is like this, this hand is good even when deeper but on this stack size it's like the nuts! If you run into the the top of someones range then it's ok, we just move on to the next game.