$3,30 NL HE MTT: AQo in BB facing 4-bet jam from BN?

[Andyreas]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

3,30

Currency

$

Dear forum,

I'd like to know what you think about my fold here?

I get dealt AQo in BB and face a min-raise from BN. So I make a 3-bet and he thinks a while and jams on me. We are both pretty deep while I'm the CL at the table.

I am not entirely sure but I have seen him min-raising the Aces before, so I fold. (I was multi tabling on my phone, so I could be confusing players, but I think it was him.)

Do you agree? Don't want to risk half my stack here.

pokerstars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (90 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 13,069 (19 bb)
MP: 24,341 (35 bb)
MP+1: 10,009 (14 bb)
CO: 7,714 (11 bb)
BU: 30,816 (44 bb)
SB: 28,742 (41 bb)
BB (Hero): 58,916 (84 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,680) Hero is BB with Q♠ A♥
4 players fold, BTN raises to 1,400, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 6,300, BTN 4-bets to 30,726 (all-in), BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: 13,580
BU wins 13,580

 

[fundiver199]

This might be a call at equilibrium or at least close, since it is a late position confrontation. But I dont mind folding here in a $3.3 MTT. Does this guy have a balanced 4-betting range including bluffs like KQs or A5s? Probably not and in that case the best, you are hoping for, is to be slightly behind to a hand like TT or JJ. And its not like, you are getting a great price either. Finally if you have a large skill edge on the table, there is definitely something to be said for "finding a better spot" rather than risking half your stack on calling a jam.

 

[dallam]

We don't have the need for going to this 2bbs without a serious hand, we're standing great and the upcoming stacks really favours us to have a great game no matter what. If BTN has an understanding about this, and seeing our 3bet as tight as it was, it's definitely a strong shove on this person's side, and we hit an advanced fold, so all-in-all this was a great action and great runaway.
When I'm forced to making big folds like this, I'm always remember, who the person was who put me in such a place, and seeing how frequently is capable to building actions like this. Maybe time after time some weaker hands will appear in his/her range.

 

[eetenor]

Dear forum,

I'd like to know what you think about my fold here?

I get dealt AQo in BB and face a min-raise from BN. So I make a 3-bet and he thinks a while and jams on me. We are both pretty deep while I'm the CL at the table.

I am not entirely sure but I have seen him min-raising the Aces before, so I fold. (I was multi tabling on my phone, so I could be confusing players, but I think it was him.)

Do you agree? Don't want to risk half my stack here.

PokerStars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (90 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 13,069 (19 bb)
MP: 24,341 (35 bb)
MP+1: 10,009 (14 bb)
CO: 7,714 (11 bb)
BU: 30,816 (44 bb)
SB: 28,742 (41 bb)
BB (Hero): 58,916 (84 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,680) Hero is BB with Q♠ A♥
4 players fold, BTN raises to 1,400, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 6,300, BTN 4-bets to 30,726 (all-in), BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: 13,580
BU wins 13,580

A simple thought is would the V do this with AJ if yes then we can lean call if no then fold- other thoughts are why would the V shove top of range? Does this sizing lean toward getting folds?

 

[Marshmalo1994]

Without any information I just assume that the 4Bet shove range is very tight, so is a fold to me.

 

[puzzlefish]

A simple thought is would the V do this with AJ if yes then we can lean call if no then fold- other thoughts are why would the V shove top of range? Does this sizing lean toward getting folds?

I find the problem with this thinking is it leads into a loop like Vizzini with the two poisoned cups in Princess Bride. The villain might do this with AJ or might want you to think he might be doing this with something like AJ. Or perhaps he wants you to think that he wants you to think that he would do this with something like AJ so you fold to absolute rubbish. And so on.