$3.25 NLHE STT: Just let AK go here, or keep at it?

[ben_rhyno]

$3.25 NL HE STT: Just let AK go here, or keep at it?

pokerstars Game #41245648243: Tournament #253286852, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/03/16 16:01:29 UTC [2010/03/16 12:01:29 ET]
Table '253286852 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ben-rhyno (1530 in chips)
Seat 2: portekle (1570 in chips)
Seat 3: Luca121212 (1520 in chips)
Seat 4: Kronnik (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: ljustin case (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: alans_ktdn (1480 in chips)
alans_ktdn: posts small blind 10
ben-rhyno: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ben-rhyno [Ah] [Ks]
portekle: raises 20 to 40
Luca121212: folds
Kronnik: folds
ljustin case: folds
alans_ktdn: folds
ben-rhyno: raises 80 to 120
portekle: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Qc] [6h] [Jc]
ben-rhyno: bets 200
portekle: raises 540 to 740
ben-rhyno: ?????

I don't know what to do here? Flat/shove/fold?

Thanks

 

[Jillychemung]

Fold, it's early and you can still come back. You have maybe 10 outs but most of these are dirty.

 

[ben_rhyno]

Did I do the right thing re-raising PF and leading out flop?

 

[only_bridge]

Did I do the right thing re-raising PF and leading out flop?

Yes, and now fold.

 

[ben_rhyno]

Yep that's what i did

 

[cjatud2012]

Yeah, just muck it, you have no fold equity with a shove here, and your pot equity isn't that good either. Just cut your losses and pick a better spot.

Pre-flop, a raise is fine, but I think I'd prefer to call. I know I said the opposite in your JJ hand, but here the blinds are smaller, and in this spot, you will know more about where you stand once the flop hits. So imo it's best to just control the size of the pot here, then fit/fold the flop.

 

[baudib1]

laugh at his stupid raise and fold.

think you have 4 outs max.

 

[ben_rhyno]

Yeh I see where you are coming from with the call cjatud, I don't like AK myself as it's not a made hand and often lets me down.
And also, baudib1, my only outs are probably the 4 tens?

 

[cjatud2012]

Yeh I see where you are coming from with the call cjatud, I don't like AK myself as it's not a made hand and often lets me down.

Yeah, AK in the later stages is beautiful, because you can safely push with it pre-flop, knowing you're only really behind to AA and KK, and you won't have to make any post-flop decisions, . Early on, it's still a monster, but you can't just 3-bet with it in every spot. It's a tricky spot because if 3-bet out of position and you whiff, because you won't know if you're up against, and the pot is worth playing for. If you 3-bet in position and you whiff, you may be able to just c-bet and take it down, depending on your opponent. I'd say that is a better proposition. Like I said, ideally you want to get AK all-in pre-flop, which is less reasonable/profitable in the early stages.

 

[WiZZiM]

edit:nvm

 

[baudib1]

He's repping such a narrow, absurd range I think I'd fold KK here. Min-raise UTG and then this dumb reraise is him hoping you have KK+and/or overly afraid of the flush draw, and inducing a shove over. I think this is basically QQ/JJ 95% of the time.

 

[ben_rhyno]

baudib1, you mean after the flop you'd fold KK? KK isn't foldable PF at micro stakes imo, but I think you mean after the flop. I think AQ here or AJ here, he was a very loose player the whole game. But I knew AK wasn't good here. Maybe even 66 is in his range here