$3.21 NL HE MTT: BB vs SB | PKO

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

3.21

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

SB stats after 25 hands: VPIP 25 PFR 12

What action do you guys take here? SB has a min bounty on him for $0.75.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (30 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 12,696 (63 bb)
UTG+1: 11,943 (60 bb)
MP: 8,480 (42 bb)
MP+1: 9,099 (45 bb)
CO: 9,460 (47 bb)
BU: 18,762 (94 bb)
SB: 15,608 (78 bb)
BB (Hero): 9,775 (49 bb)

Pre-Flop: (540) Hero is BB with 5♣ 8♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 400, 4 players fold, SB calls 300, Hero calls 200

Flop: (1,440) 7♣ 4♣ 8♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 476, SB calls 476, Hero raises to 2,599, UTG+1 folds, SB raises to 9,713, Hero ?

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Against a min-raise I would also defend 85s.

Flop
On a low connected board like this you are "allowed" to sometimes lead, but I would not do it here. You flopped a 12 out draw, but you also flopped top pair bad kicker, so your hand has showdown value, and typically that kind of hand is best played in a neutral or passive way. Protection is not as much a concern, when you have a flushdraw, because if someone has say QJo, then two of their outs will make you a flush. And for that reason I also dont like check-raising. When you check-raise, you kind of reduce your hand to being just a draw, because when you get action, its almost never from a worse made hand. So I would much rather check-raise a hand like JT of clubs, which cant win at showdown without improving.

You do check-raise though, and now SB, who initially just checked and then called, comes in for a jam, which is also called a backraise. This is a rather bizarre line by him, and on a board like this I dont think, a strong hand like a straight or set just call the initial bet and allow two opponents to potentially draw out on him, or bad cards to kill his action. So I think, you are most likely against another draw like maybe T9 or KJ of clubs. And whatever he has, you are never drawing dead, and you are getting around 2:1. So at this point I dont think, there is any decision other than to stick in the chips and hope to run good.

 

[eetenor]

SB stats after 25 hands: VPIP 25 PFR 12

What action do you guys take here? SB has a min bounty on him for $0.75.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (30 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 12,696 (63 bb)
UTG+1: 11,943 (60 bb)
MP: 8,480 (42 bb)
MP+1: 9,099 (45 bb)
CO: 9,460 (47 bb)
BU: 18,762 (94 bb)
SB: 15,608 (78 bb)
BB (Hero): 9,775 (49 bb)

Pre-Flop: (540) Hero is BB with 5♣ 8♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 400, 4 players fold, SB calls 300, Hero calls 200

Flop: (1,440) 7♣ 4♣ 8♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 476, SB calls 476, Hero raises to 2,599, UTG+1 folds, SB raises to 9,713, Hero ?

Multiway pots require us to play with caution because of our reduced equity vs 2 player- In this spot we could be drawing dead to our flush- yes 1 card makes us a straight flush- and be behind to a larger pair-just a terrible spot- our 3 way equity could be even worse if the SB flatted Tc9c.

Therefore we do not want to bloat pots by check raising-
We do not have to max our equity with marginal made hands we can still make a flush and get paid by Acx hands possible sets etc and if we did hit that low % 6c we can stack full houses and or other flushes- all for the low low price of just 476

 

[mariussica88]

Thank you for the feedback. I do think that on the flop I could play it more passively but at this small stakes I get burn a lot by playing passive. That is because I still have to work on my post flop game a lot.

Here is the full hand:

 

[fundiver199]

So SB did in fact have a draw. A little surpriced it was AK of clubs, since he did not 3-bet preflop. But regardless if its AK of clubs or QT of clubs, he would have the same amount of outs, and this time he hit one of them. But luckily the other card improved you to a hand, which still beat his improved hand. Still think this could have been played better by just calling on the flop though

 

[eetenor]

Thank you for the feedback. I do think that on the flop I could play it more passively but at this small stakes I get burn a lot by playing passive. That is because I still have to work on my post flop game a lot.

Here is the full hand:

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The reason you state "you get burned" maybe because of how flat the equities are multiway---which is why we cannot be too agg in a multiway pot. As we saw here from the action we would still have been paid off by the AK so we did not need to leverage our stack early