$215 NLHE MTT: J10s in MP

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This is a tournament that I played Sunday on 888Poker, I received a ticket on their twitch stream so this is way off my buy-in limit. But it is very nice to see how some players play this big tournaments.

Not much relevant info on the opponent since he played only 10 hands at this table:
VPIP 60 PFR 60 C-bet 50 and 3-bet 25

Do you guys think that I can Bet the turn here? What about the river?


pacific poker - 400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players


UTG+1: 36,314 (45.4 bb)
Hero (MP): 31,813 (39.8 bb)
MP+1: 27,333 (34.2 bb)
MP+2: 29,121 (36.4 bb)
CO: 106,987 (133.7 bb)
BTN: 20,096 (25.1 bb)
SB: 79,803 (99.8 bb)
BB: 39,165 (49 bb)
UTG: 12,633 (15.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 100, SB posts 400, BB posts 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,100) Hero has :jh4: :10h4:
2 folds, Hero raises to 1,760, MP+1 calls 1,760, 5 folds

Flop: (5,620, 2 players) :2h4: :5s4: :8d4:
Hero bets 1,967, MP+1 calls 1,967

Turn: (9,554, 2 players) :8h4:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

River: (9,554, 2 players) :9c4:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

Results: 9,554 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :2h4: :5s4: :8d4: :8h4: :9c4:
 
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I am not a GTO guy, but an easy rule of thumb is to fire again, when you pick up equity on the turn (or already had a good draw) and shut it down, when you dont. So I would probably have tripple barreled here hoping to eventually get him off hands like 66-77. As played on the turn I think, you have much less fold equity, so I am ok just giving up on the river as played.
 
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This is a tournament that I played Sunday on 888Poker, I received a ticket on their twitch stream so this is way off my buy-in limit. But it is very nice to see how some players play this big tournaments.

Not much relevant info on the opponent since he played only 10 hands at this table:
VPIP 60 PFR 60 C-bet 50 and 3-bet 25

Do you guys think that I can Bet the turn here? What about the river?


Pacific Poker - 400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players


UTG+1: 36,314 (45.4 bb)
Hero (MP): 31,813 (39.8 bb)
MP+1: 27,333 (34.2 bb)
MP+2: 29,121 (36.4 bb)
CO: 106,987 (133.7 bb)
BTN: 20,096 (25.1 bb)
SB: 79,803 (99.8 bb)
BB: 39,165 (49 bb)
UTG: 12,633 (15.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 100, SB posts 400, BB posts 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,100) Hero has :jh4: :10h4:
2 folds, Hero raises to 1,760, MP+1 calls 1,760, 5 folds

Flop: (5,620, 2 players) :2h4: :5s4: :8d4:
Hero bets 1,967, MP+1 calls 1,967

Turn: (9,554, 2 players) :8h4:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

River: (9,554, 2 players) :9c4:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

Results: 9,554 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :2h4: :5s4: :8d4: :8h4: :9c4:

Thank you for posting.

When we preplan a hand we want to be thinking about multiple streets at a time.

Number 1 question can my V be bluffed. If no then you played the hand perfectly.

If however the V calls flop with AX Kx Qx Jx no pair but will fold turn then we can and will bluff here.

Your bet sizing on flop OOP will have V calling a wide range we need to know this before we bet this size.
We already want to be thinking -if my V has only over cards and the turn is a blank I have to bet again to get folds.

Then we adapt again when this turn card hits. Why?

Data points
1 8h
When we pick up equity and our V have a wide flop calling range we bet turn more frequently. Larger for bluffs and value.

2
the board pairing top card will cause us to change how much we bet here,
V are more likely to call thinking you will bluff.
If V has A5 they will call as they now have two pair- wrong thinking but it happens

This data point does not stop us from betting but we now know if we want to bluff this hand we will have to bet river - vs standard passives. So instead of making 66% bet turn we make 40% bet and jam river as a bluff to get weak made hands to fold, as well as missed overs.

Working on preplanning is a must for poker skill growth.

There is more to think about here. Take the time to build ranges and think about V actions


Hope this helps
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I like what Fundiver wrote above. I dont like the board pairing on the turn (not because Im worried villain has 8x) since it hurts a bit what we can rep. It is a heart so we could bet here for sure since we picked up the draw and when we check our hand looks like a AJ-AK hand that is playing a little pot control even out of position. Im fine with checking and fine with betting in this spot on the turn. If I had checked turn then my hope on river would be a heart, or a card J or higher. The higher cards then fit our potential AJ-AK range here and we could get some folds from small pairs that villain could have (not sure how much they fold though since I have not and probably never will play a $215 so I couldnt say what the villains are like at those levels).
 
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