$20 NLHE MTT Rebuy: $$20 NLHE MTT Rebuy: Live rebuy AQ vs table donk

[MrEpic94]

Ok this is a live hand in the $201r1a, I never take the rebuy or add on.

Play is 6 handed.
Blinds 50/100
Everyone has 7k+ except me, I have 3700.
AQo dealt to me UTG, I raise to 350. Action goes, call, call, fold, raise all in for about 8k, fold, fold, fold.
So far the all in player has raised 3 of about 20 hands in the tourney. Twice he has won uncontested and the third time he showed A7o and took the pot.

How wide does his shoving range have to be here to call considering we are on of the better tournament players in the tourney and I still have lots of play before the blinds start to eat at me.

 

[KingCurtis]

Easy fold.

You said it yourself, he doesn't raise a lot, and you have plenty of time and chips.why go out on AQ if you lose?.get it in better in a better situation.

 

[MrEpic94]

Its debateable, if we assign him a range the majority of the time we are ahead.

If we plug some ranges into pokerstove then it brings up some interesting values.

Below ive put in 3 ranges, loose -> tight and at worst we are just below flipping against his range.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
14,471,442 games 13.438 secs 1,076,904 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.113% 55.43% 03.69% 8020936 533864.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 40.887% 37.20% 03.69% 5383286 533870.50 { 22+, A2s+, KQs, A2o+, KQo }

　
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
6,029,306 games 5.531 secs 1,090,093 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.966% 48.73% 04.24% 2938144 255579.50 { AQo }
Hand 1: 47.034% 42.80% 04.24% 2580559 255587.50 { 22+, A7s+, A7o+ }

　
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
10,076,220 games 9.484 secs 1,062,444 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.716% 40.00% 07.72% 4030240 777932.50 { AQo }
Hand 1: 52.284% 44.57% 07.72% 4490657 777949.50 { TT+, ATs+, ATo+ }

　
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Im not sure wether the extra chips are that benificial this early in a tournament though?

I know we need to take flips but at this early stage we can certainly play out of this situation. Im just really on the fence about the appropriate play in this situation.

 

[cjatud2012]

Well I'm not sure if those ranges are accurate, you've said so yourself that he's a pretty tight player. Is he likely to squeeze here? You also have to consider that there are still people left to act behind you.

Oh, and if you're not taking the rebuy/add-on in these tournies, you've giving up a pretty significant edge.

 

[MrEpic94]

Well I'm not sure if those ranges are accurate, you've said so yourself that he's a pretty tight player. Is he likely to squeeze here? You also have to consider that there are still people left to act behind you.

Oh, and if you're not taking the rebuy/add-on in these tournies, you've giving up a pretty significant edge.

how so?

 

[cjatud2012]

how so?

Well, if you had aces early on in the tourney, or you flopped a set in a multi-way pot, would you rather go from t1500 to t3000, or from t3000 to potentially t6000? There are tons of benefits to having a larger stack going into the middle phases of the tournament. In fact, many players will take more risks just for the opportunity to have that big stack. Most of them take it too far, and that's who we want to target when we double up our rebuy stack

 

[JMcCabe]

Agreed with the rebuy cjatud. You should always rebuy before the start of the tourney in these types of tourneys.

As to the OP, AQ is a pretty easy fold at this point in the tourney. You want to be the shover when you're likely flipping against your opponent's range, not the caller.

 

[Poker Orifice]

You're the one who's playing on the table, so you'd likely have a better idea as to what their range is... but unless he's a retard, I would really disagree with your assessment.
First off... I'd fold the AQ here... his shove (imo) is screaming AK. (in the 'tight' range you assigned... do you really think villain would be overshipping in this spot with AA KK QQ?? I would doubt it)... also.. A2+? kinda doubt that one too.