$2 NLHE MTT Turbo: Should I fold in this spot vs a maniac?

[Vfranks]

poker stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+1: t770 25.67 BBs
UTG+2: t1970 65.67 BBs
MP1: t1640 54.67 BBs
MP2: t4290 143 BBs
Hero (CO): t1940 64.67 BBs
BTN: t1970 65.67 BBs
SB: t1960 65.33 BBs
BB: t1680 56 BBs
UTG: t1800 60 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with Q ♠ Q ♦
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t90, 2 folds, Hero raises to t210, 1 fold, SB calls t195, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t120

Flop: (t660) J ♠ A ♥ 2 ♠ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets t330, SB raises to t1750 all in, UTG+2 folds, Hero..???

This was 7 hand into the tourney so no PT3 stats yet, but the SB had played every hand so far. He did this same exact line the first hand of the tourney with 34o on a J38 flop and got called by KJo and hit the 4 on the river for 2pair to double up.
He then did this again with A6s on a 457 rainbow flop and lost to AK who called him and ended up winning with Ahigh.
So when he did this to me I wasn't sure what to put him on. Normally I would just fold to a raise on a flop like that, but because he was a maniac like I thought maybe he only had a FD or a pair of 2's or Jacks, but I guess it it very possible he could have the Ace also. I mean it is very early in the tourney, so should I just fold and wait for a better spot? What do u guys think?

 

[IamRude]

eww
considering what you said though, don't think i would fold in a $2.20 tbh.

 

[crow27]

against a player like that, just push preflop. you'll will alot more than you'll lose.

 

[Vfranks]

against a player like that, just push preflop. you'll will alot more than you'll lose.

Well he acted after me preflop, and it was only 7 hands into the tournament. I just cant see myself 3betting 67BB allin to a 4.5BB pot 6 minutes into the game. The guy UTG I had no reads on yet, I only had reads on the SB who I knew was a maniac.

 

[Jillychemung]

IMHO your preflop raise was too small, it just entices the UTG+2 to play.
Your read here was that the SB was gonna call any raise so you have to calculate the pot to be 120+2*Raise. You need to have a much larger 3-bet to let UTG+2 know that you were willing to stack off against the SB but still leave you a playable stack if UTG+2 shoves over you which UTG can only do with AA and maybe KK. I would say a bet of ~900 would do nicely.
If SB flats then UTG+2 needs to call 810 into a 1920 pot.
If SB shoves then UTG+2 needs to call 1870 into a 2960 pot.

 

[Vfranks]

Yeah i did mean to make the 3bet a little larger, at least 3x initial bet, but i dunno why i made it so small..

The results are that I folded to the SB's shove so I never got to see what he had. Than I got moved to another table a few hands later, but he did play every hand lol. I did see him acctually hit trips and he slowplayed it, so I put a note on him.

 

[cjatud2012]

pretty sure we should check back this flop.