in order to make deep runs in tournies its hands like these that need to be folded in the beginning levels imo. stick to premium starting hands to build your stack up.
I think it's the exact opposite.
Eh, I don't agree to people saying fold this pre flop. It's early in the tournament, I know. Don't really have any reads, I get that, but you are getting a little to 2.5 to 1 on the call and you have a pretty good chance of being last to act on the flop.
It's hands like these seeing cheap flops that allow us to build a big stack early. And that's what we want to do in a tourney, is build a stack early!
You're FD isn't that bad either, only someone with a FD and the As has a better FD. Plus the J of spades does give you the nuts.
With that said, I don't think we need to worry about hands like AT, if you actually made a decent raise instead of the worst raise possible, hands like AT can't really continue, due to them having a gutshot with a FD out there. If you are going to raise here, you need to raise a lot more, with the intention of calling a shove or shoving over any weak raise. Your raise should be more like 600. Which will deter the shenanigans that happened behind you in this hand. So we raise if we are playing aggressivly, (and I think we play this hand aggressively the majority of the time) just because we have a huge draw, and it's really hard for a better straight draw to continue and if we are unlucky enough for someone with the nut FD, our pair of Q's should be good, They can't have a pair.
You would think if someone flopped the straight in front of you, they would bet and bet more than a third of the pot. Due to being OOP and needing to protect their hand. See, you're raise makes it hard to put anyone on a hand. It's so small the button can be calling with a FD and possibly AT or AJ. Then the raise from the BB makes no sense, if he did check the straight, he should defiantly jam here and he doesn't. If MP+2 actually made a less than 1/3 bet on the flop with the straight, you would really think he's jamming. So, the only one that makes sense having the straight could possibly be the button getting greedy and slow playing on a very scary board to slow play. That's if anyone flopped the straight at all. Which I really don't think so.
I actually have no clue what anyone can have here, just cause the hand is played so terribly, by anyone that could actually have a hand. MP+2 just calls the opening raise pre flop, then bets less than a third of the pot on the flop. Then you make a half pot raise, which is cold called by the button, which is then cold half pot three bet by the BB, which is then half pot four bet by MP+2 and finally five bet shoved by you, which is then called by everyone. LOL!!!
So what can anyone have that makes sense? FD worse than yours, over played TP hands and two pair hands. I really think an A high flush draw is out. I guess it comes down to the button. He can have the A high FD, that would make sense. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. lol. I'm done, crazy things go on in $2 tournaments.
So to summarize, calling pre flop is fine. The raise is fine but needs to be bigger and getting it all in here is also fine due to it being hard for the bigger straight draw to call here, if someone is on the A high FD, your pair is good and a straight is pretty unlikely from the players in front of you and if someone behind has it (which is slim cause he's calling with a wide range due to getting over three to one and being on the button), you are drawing to a flush and the nut straight flush. So to summarize my summary, LOL. It all comes down to your raise on the flop, it needs to be bigger.
