$2.25 NLHE MTT: Stupid play?

[billdogg]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) (t2430)
SB (t2755)
BB (t1530)
UTG (t11255)
UTG+1 (t4690)
MP1 (t12135)
MP2 (t3820)
CO (t1885)

Hero's M: 10.12

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5

, 5

5 folds, Hero bets t480, 1 fold, BB raises to t1530 (All-In), Hero calls t1050

I'm pretty sure I made the right play here. It was folded to me on the button, I raised 3xBB with a pocket pair, LAG BB shipped. I was getting 2:1 on a call with a pocket pair, and had him covered, so it was a pretty easy call for me.

The only question I have is that another player at the table (not the one I busted) went on and on for about 10 minutes about how bad of a play that was and I overvalued a pair of 5s. Was going on about how I need to read a poker book because I will go broke playing like that. :ridinghor

 

[baudib1]

shove pre, the stacks behind you are perfect resteal size and no you can't really fold getting 2-1. If your stacks are bigger raise to steal but make it 2.5x BB.

 

[cjatud2012]

It depends mostly on your reads. If he's shoving any pair, any ace, and any broadway, our equity looks like this:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
3,626,659,872 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand |Pot equity |Wins |Ties
55|51.69% |1,856,508,624|36,449,064
22-AA, A2-AK, KT-KQ, QT-QJ, JT|48.31% |1,733,702,184|36,449,064

but if he's tighter, say 77+ and AT+, it's much closer:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
1,150,668,288 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand |Pot equity |Wins |Ties
55|38.75% |442,747,896|6,165,036
77-AA, AT-AK|61.25% |701,755,356|6,165,036

also, raise 2.5x instead of 3x, because 1) that works just as well to steal, 2) your c-bet on the flop becomes less expensive, and 3) you can fold to a shove if you need to.

I suppose a shove pre isn't horrible, you have 15bb in your stack, I like to wait for around 10-12bb personally, but yeah you could shove. That might even be better than raising since villain can't resteal.

 

[billdogg]

I should have added that BB was 42/42. He showed A9o, but my 5s held up.

Also, after I posted, I checked on the chat box warrior. He's about -19% ROI over 1K games with $-1300 loss. Definitely not the one I should be taking tips from. Later, when we were 3 handed, he open shoved ATo into my JJ, caught an A on the river, then went back on the soapbox on how it was a stupid call. If my JJ held up, I would have had a huge chip lead going into HU.