2.25 180 man QJ line check

[jewboy07]

No real significant reads but both villians snap called my bets....should i have shut down on the river or but out a lil bet just to see so i didn't have to give up control of the pot?

and also is this an easy fold?



full tilt poker Game #7347246238: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (55852809), Table 6 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:54:51 ET - 2008/07/23
Seat 1: bigrichard (3,485)
Seat 2: mute888 (3,155)
Seat 3: RyanMH35 (4,895)
Seat 4: randyriver1968 (3,525), is sitting out
Seat 5: tpreuit (5,960)
Seat 6: biker1958 (4,355)
Seat 8: EmptyTheClip07 (4,575)
Seat 9: MoCraft (695)
EmptyTheClip07 posts the small blind of 50
MoCraft posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EmptyTheClip07 [Qh Jh]
bigrichard calls 100
mute888 calls 100
RyanMH35 folds
randyriver1968 folds
tpreuit folds
biker1958 calls 100
EmptyTheClip07 calls 50
MoCraft checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Qc 4d]
EmptyTheClip07 bets 300
RyanMH35 has been disconnected
RyanMH35 has reconnected
MoCraft folds
bigrichard folds
mute888 calls 300
biker1958 calls 300
*** TURN *** [3c Qc 4d] [8d]
EmptyTheClip07 bets 700
mute888 calls 700
biker1958 calls 700
*** RIVER *** [3c Qc 4d 8d] [7d]
EmptyTheClip07 has 15 seconds left to act
EmptyTheClip07 checks
mute888 checks
biker1958 bets 3,255, and is all in
EmptyTheClip07????

 

[Jillychemung]

preflop with stacks pretty close + Ms>20 (except for shorty) this preflop call is fine but you really are looking for a better flop. Flop lead is OK but w/ 2 callers it's time to shutdown on the turn. At the river, yes easy fold as you can only really beat a bluff.

 

[OzExorcist]

Without reads I think we have to fold the river.

It's difficult, becase there aren't a lot of realistic hands that beat us - AQ probably would have raised before the flop. KQ may not have, but we beat any other lone queen.

56 is the only plausible draw that's hit on the river, because the diamonds came runner-runner and you bet the flop. It's possible, but not the most likely hand.

Q7 / Q8 are possible. It'd be a pretty loose play before the flop, but not out of the question. 33 / 44 are also possible (and to a lesser extent, 88 or 77).

So that's... what, five or six plausible hands that beat us, and some others that are less likely but still possible.

OK, I've convinced myself, we've probably gotta fold. I suspect we're still good a decent chunk of the time, but our hand is marginal and the damage is just too great if we're wrong.

I think the best option for avoiding the situation would be to check the turn, for pot control as much as anything else, then assess what the villains do.

 

[jewboy07]

I thought about checking the turn but really hate giving both opponents free cards when i really don't know where i stand

I did end up folding on the river and regretting the bet on the turn so i guess i was just looking for alternate ways to play the hand

appreciate the input guys

 

[ncmtngirl79]

too much crap too have only a pair and the othr guy not backing down, tough but doable, I don't know... you have straight two pairs and runner runner flush, people love calling with low connectors to "trick" a bigger hand. shut down on the turn proceed with caution run like hell on the river!