$2.20 NLHE Turbo: hit nut straight, best way to suck out money?

[pat3392]

$2.20 NL HE Turbo: hit nut straight, best way to suck out money?

poker stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
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Hero (UTG): t2280 M = 50.67
UTG+1: t1100 M = 24.44
MP1: t920 M = 20.44
MP2: t1510 M = 33.56
CO: t1430 M = 31.78
BTN: t850 M = 18.89
SB: t2470 M = 54.89
BB: t1470 M = 32.67

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with A:spade: K:diamond:
Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, MP1 calls t90, MP2 calls t90, 1 fold, BTN calls t90, 2 folds

Flop: (t405) Q:heart: J:diamond: 7:spade: (4 players)
Hero bets t210, MP1 calls t210, MP2 folds, BTN folds

Turn: (t825) T:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t90, Hero calls t90

River: (t1005) T:club: (2 players)
Hero bets t1890 all in, MP1 folds

Looking back on this I played this very bad, well the turn onwards imho. Opinions people?

 

[WiZZiM]

I probably wouldn't have cbet that flop, it's very unlikely you will get three folds...

Id probably just fire the turn, If hes calling flop, very likely he will stack off on the turn, so id jsut bet it and expect him to get it in with whatever hes calling flop with.. most draw are still likely to call, but once he gets to river, i think we lose out on value from missed draws.

Anyways im rambling and not making sense, bed time for me.

 

[tenbob]

I wouldnt c-bet that flop either. Still though its the turn where it go's wallop for you.

Your betting 90 into an 825 pot, its just screams "I HAZ IT", villian has 620 chips left behind, just put him in, he will call with all his draws that miss the river.

 

[WiZZiM]

I wouldnt c-bet that flop either. Still though its the turn where it go's wallop for you.

Your betting 90 into an 825 pot, its just screams "I HAZ IT", villian has 620 chips left behind, just put him in, he will call with all his draws that miss the river.

no, he check/called the turn, villain bet 90

a silly small bet like that at these levels is almost always a draw/really marginal hand. i suppose they think its a cheap way to bluff, im not sure. i don't actually mind checking, if you know the villains likely to fire, but if not, i just shove it in on the turn.

 

[bolda3]

Raise the turn. See how he responds. If he calls and you feel you have a good read that he will bet, a check on the river is very sneaky. Looks like a busted flush draw here tho so any bet on the river would have probaly scared him off.

 

[bgomez89]

wizzim is right. Flop hits villains range so i'd just check seeing as im probably not going to be able to take it down with a cbet a lot of the time.

On the turn i think that betting is a better option than the c/r because villain has already shown interest on the flop so he'll probably call another bet and still think he's best. If you decide to c/r:

1: he could check back thus losing value in your hand
2: if he bets and you raise, he might not think his hand is good anymore and
fold.

 

[tenbob]

no, he check/called the turn, villain bet 90

a silly small bet like that at these levels is almost always a draw/really marginal hand. i suppose they think its a cheap way to bluff, im not sure. i don't actually mind checking, if you know the villains likely to fire, but if not, i just shove it in on the turn.

Sorry missed that.

Yea, I just shove the turn so, pretty easy.

 

[pat3392]

Why shove instead of raising something like 400? I'm not sure if the "average" player at these limits recognises that they are basically committed here if they call so I think I will probably get more calls here + it seems unlikely that they have a draw: he called the flop when there were not flush draws present and unless he has exactly a K/9/8 he would have a gun-shot, but I don't think someone would risk there whole stack on a gun-shot.

EDIT: Let's say they all checked to me on the flop(I didn't c-bet) and the turn was a dud card(3/4), should I c-bet then?

 

[WiZZiM]

I'm not opposed to betting an amount like 400 here.. i like it actually, vs a player who can't distinguish that this is a strong looking bet.

Again, against 4 players, im not sure if you are ever getting 3 folds, so probably not, id prefer checking it down and seeing a river, you just get too many loose calls to make a delayed c-bet profitable. Since no one bet, you still may have the best hand.

What happens when you cbet this flop, the turn is a blank, then what? second barrell? puts you in a weird spot OOP.

 

[Henreiman]

I check that flop, c-betting into three players on that board is too dangerous unless you expect them all to show up with underpairs or AK for some reason. Any variety of hands calling you can spike that board in enough of a manner to warrant a call. The turn is pretty easy to play: if you know he's pretty tight and calling with top pair tight hands, but still willing to stack off with it, then bet. If he's loose and playing a jack or something, check/raise...probably like 400.