$2.2 NLHE MTT: JJ multiwa preflop!

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poker stars, $2 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players

reads:
MP2: went deep earlier active M ~20 AI (SB position) i was on BTN made standard bet!

BB: cold call SB KK earlier!

MP2 stats: 21/7 limp 8 -hands 73
BB stats: 19/11 limp 0 - hands 37

SB: 5,430 (9.1 bb)
BB: 28,176 (47 bb)
UTG+1: 10,268 (17.1 bb)
UTG+2: 3,574 (6 bb)
Hero (MP1): 29,837 (49.7 bb)
MP2: 35,386 (59 bb)
MP3: 10,052 (16.8 bb)
CO: 10,320 (17.2 bb)
BTN: 17,991 (30 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J
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2 folds, Hero raises to 1,500, MP2 calls 1,500, 4 folds, BB raises to 28,106 and is all-in, hero?
 
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Fold is good here. BB range is pretty narrow and mostly has hands where you are either behind or, at best, flipping. You also have MP2 to worry about. You really don't want to be putting your whole stack at risk in this spot.
 
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If you playing many mtts in day, easy call, will be very profitable in distance ( very often villain will have QQ KK AA ) if not and you play not many games only fold..
 
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Thanks for answer's. Will add result to spoiler!

Those who want to still discuss about the hand, do not look spoiler!

I folded. BB had KK and MP2 had TT - MP2 hit his set on flop and takes the pot!
 
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Haven't read spoiler. I'm torn on this hand. It looks like a classic squeeze play and so for me, QQ+ and AK would be a clear call. So why is JJ any different? It's only doing a tiny bit worse against the perceived range.

your read about him cold calling with KK in the SB earlier makes me suspicious that he has a strong yet vulnerable hand such as AK/AQ/TT-QQ

I know English is your 2nd language, but to me "cold calling" means there was a raise and a call and he called as a 3rd player into the pot. to me "flat calling" means there was a raise and he just called. so there might be some terminology nuances at play here....anyways....

MP2 is unlikely to come along if you re-jam (otherwise he would have likely 3bet you instead of flatting).

so there is some potential dead money and anytime you can flip with a significant amount of dead money that is +EV. Of course there is no guarantee you're flipping but we have a logical basis for ruling out AA/KK. if 99 or AJ is in his range then this is a clear call.

Here's how JJ is doing against some various ranges:

AK/AQ and TT-QQ the JJ has 54.4%
AK and JJ-AA the JJ has only 36.6%
AK/AQ/AJ and 99-QQ the JJ has 59.0%

and if we think 50% of the time he'll cold call with his monsters and 50% of the time he'll jam with them then I'll assign a range of AK/AQ, TT-QQ and AA then JJ has 50.2%

so....you have to be fairly certain of your range reads here that he might flat with KK....

interesting spot.
 
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Not sure why i wanted to fold this, seems like a really clear call lol
 
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