$16.5 NLHE MTT Bounty: QQ Late position/basic bounty

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Just tell me that I can't fold it :D
It's new player at the table.

I was counting on push from SB. He has nice bounty. UTG calls him and then I get a nice pot.

BB has just basic bounty and this is why I thinking a moment about folding. Because now, when i lost, I lost a chance to catch another nice bounty from another players...






pokerstars, $14.70 + $1.80 - Hold'em No Limit - 600/1,200 (180 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 177,218 (148 bb)
UTG+1: 48,938 (41 bb)
MP: 65,430 (55 bb)
MP+1: 20,137 (17 bb)
CO: 113,414 (95 bb)
BU (Hero): 81,322 (68 bb)
SB: 14,080 (12 bb)
BB: 35,397 (29 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,240) Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to 2,400, 4 players fold, Hero calls 2,400, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to 35,217 (all-in), 1 fold, Hero calls 32,817

Flop: (74,874) 4 2 J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (74,874) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (74,874) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 74,874

Showdown:
BB shows A A (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

BB wins 74,874
 
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I can be on board with just calling QQ for the reasons, you gave, and also to avoid playing a massive pot against UTG, who have us covered. When we have underrepresented our hand like this, we absolutely can not fold to the 3-bet though, and especially not when UTG has gotten out of the way. If BB happen to have AA or KK, as in fact he did, it just suck to be us. But he will also be jamming other hands, that we are doing great against, like TT-JJ, AK maybe even AQ.
 
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Just tell me that I can't fold it :D
It's new player at the table.

I was counting on push from SB. He has nice bounty. UTG calls him and then I get a nice pot.

BB has just basic bounty and this is why I thinking a moment about folding. Because now, when i lost, I lost a chance to catch another nice bounty from another players...


PokerStars, $14.70 + $1.80 - Hold'em No Limit - 600/1,200 (180 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 177,218 (148 bb)
UTG+1: 48,938 (41 bb)
MP: 65,430 (55 bb)
MP+1: 20,137 (17 bb)
CO: 113,414 (95 bb)
BU (Hero): 81,322 (68 bb)
SB: 14,080 (12 bb)
BB: 35,397 (29 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,240) Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to 2,400, 4 players fold, Hero calls 2,400, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to 35,217 (all-in), 1 fold, Hero calls 32,817

Flop: (74,874) 4 2 J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (74,874) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (74,874) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 74,874

Showdown:
BB shows A A (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

BB wins 74,874

Thank you for posting.

No need to be upset about calling with QQ unless you had a strong read on the BB's range as being tight in this spot.

Based on the UTG stack size it is possible that the BB raise is indicative of very strong hands as in a bounty they are going to get called more often. this spot would be a good place for BB to just call with TT-22 to set mine rather than flip or be dominated.

If you can hand review your tournies you may want to research similar type hands and see if your V are narrowing their shove ranges sub 30bb vs big stacks.

If you find that your V are playing very tight then folding to protect your stack size for bounties is good thinking. I just do not know without the data on range adjustments how big an ROI mistake it might be long term to fold QQ in these spots.

Hope this helps
:):)
 
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Its just nice to arrive on bounties on a position like this and with a hand like this.

I'm also loving this call on UTG, you just let space to these 2 bounties to make a shove, cause they could easily make it - jump the two biggest stacks against each other, they maybe just have to see only one opponent, and the pot is already great. I may can expect to be leading here and actually QQ is something to be get along to be beaten. Well, I know its not had been measured in money. :) But the action was on point, and you couldn't fold it. :p
 
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That's a no brainer, Doesn't really matter how you played preflop here, its a typical cooler situation, you absolutely must call with QQ in this spot.

The only possible scenario where you do lay this hand down is only when your opponent's cards are face up :))))
 
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Yeah you cant fold Queens there, just got unlucky it happens all the time.
 
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