$11 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Final 4 in a MTT

[dwbrown7680]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 26/20/1

So this is down to the last 4 in the tournament and I'm not concerned about results, mostly just wondering if this can ever be a fold when you consider ICM, etc? I'm assuming probably not, but with the short on my right wasn't 100% sure. Any input is appreciated, thanks.

MERGE_GAME #4735467100193: Texas Hold'em NL Tournament 01/18/2012 19:25:28
Table $2,000 Guaranteed Deepstack Turbo Freezeout , 46912371 (Tournament: $2,000 Guaranteed Deepstack Turbo Freezeout , 46912371 Buy-In: $10+$1.00)
Seat 1: greenie7680 ($163,772.00 in chips)
Seat 4: ISouldReaderI ($672,558.00 in chips)
Seat 6: JJsAllDays ($355,020.00 in chips)
Seat 9: jaynjen ($78,250.00 in chips) DEALER
greenie7680: Post Ante $1,600.00
ISouldReaderI: Post Ante $1,600.00
JJsAllDays: Post Ante $1,600.00
jaynjen: Post Ante $1,600.00
greenie7680: Post SB $8,000.00
ISouldReaderI: Post BB $16,000.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to greenie7680 [Jh Jd]
JJsAllDays: Raise $48,000.00
jaynjen: Allin $78,250.00
greenie7680: Allin $163,772.00
ISouldReaderI: Allin $672,558.00
JJsAllDays: Fold
*** FLOP *** [7s 3s 2d]
*** TURN *** [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Qh]
*** SUMMARY ***
greenie7680: Shows [Jh Jd]
ISouldReaderI: Shows [Ks As]
jaynjen: Shows [Qs Qc]
ISouldReaderI: wins $516,786.00
ISouldReaderI: wins $187,044.00
ISouldReaderI: wins $289,150.00

 

[BlueNowhere]

Defo not a fold. Only case it would be is where payout between 4th and 3rd was huge and 3rd 2nd and 1st was small.

 

[micalupagoo]

tough to fold, the reraise was great- unlucky against that flush or the side pot woulda been alright
wonder what JJs folded after initial raise?
gg, how many ppl started??

 

[baudib1]

No way you can fold, the value of having a like 70% of the chips in play if you win is incredible. JJ's an absolute monster 4-handed.

 

[dwbrown7680]

Yeah it's obv pretty hard to find the fold button 4 handed with JJ I guess my only real question was whether it was worth folding to increase in a pay jump. In the end though I'm pretty sure this is never a fold even considering ICM, etc and what not.

Like I said wasn't concerned with results just wanted to see what others thought/whether the concept of a pay jump warranted a fold.

 

[duggs]

i can see the argument if you held a marginal hand, clearly not in this case tho.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

People have said all that needs to be said about the actual hand but I'm curious what people's ranges for shoving here are, assuming a standard pay structure. JJ is definitely a shove, TT too, 99 I think is the cutoff point. AK we definitely shove, what about AQ?

 

[BlueNowhere]

Had a hand similar to this before and did calculations and it came out as 99+ profitable.