$11 NLHE Deep Stacked: How many different ways did i play this wrong?

[WarriorStoic]

$11 NL HE Deep Stacked: How many different ways did i play this wrong?

Looking for all input, this is in the daily 30,000 on ps that i am playing in right now, thanks everyone.

poker stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 557508
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (SB): t2900 M = 48.33
BB: t2225 M = 37.08
UTG: t3010 M = 50.17
UTG+1: t10718 M = 178.63
UTG+2: t3967 M = 66.12
MP1: t3000 M = 50
MP2: t3035 M = 50.58
CO: t2225 M = 37.08
BTN: t2935 M = 48.92
Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is SB with Q

Q

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t200, 3 folds, Hero calls t180, 2 folds
Flop: (t480) 6

2

5

(2 players)
Hero bets t240, MP1 raises to t640, Hero calls t400
Turn: (t1760) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t600, Hero calls t600
River: (t2960) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets t1460 all in, MP1 calls t1460

 

[thirteenlisk]

Could have 3bet preflop. Having said that I don't think it's the worst play, you're still beating a lot of medium pocket pairs.

 

[Jillychemung]

I don't mind getting my chips all-in with QQ at this point (1st few hands) in these tournaments. I probably would have 3-bet to 750 and then shoved the flop. IMHO you cover a lot of villains range that I would put at AK, AQ, 99-AA which makes you 58-42 preflop and 67-33 on the flop. Even though the opponent is showing a lot of strength I just can't narrow his range to ONLY AA, KK at any point here.

 

[WarriorStoic]

bump

 

[Zybomb]

Nothing grossly wrong if you're intent to stack with QQ here (debatable whether this is ok or not). On the turn, I dunno why we wouldn't CRAI if we're planning on shoving the river though

 

[Poker Orifice]

I don't mind getting my chips all-in with QQ at this point (1st few hands) in these tournaments. I probably would have 3-bet to 750 and then shoved the flop. IMHO you cover a lot of villains range that I would put at AK, AQ, 99-AA which makes you 58-42 preflop and 67-33 on the flop. Even though the opponent is showing a lot of strength I just can't narrow his range to ONLY AA, KK at any point here.

Really? You think alot them are raising in early levels to 4x in eMP with 99? I beg to differ.
Because of it being early levels, I'm probably not 3-betting preflop here w QQ (am I considering 3-betting > fold to 4bet?). It's early levels >> we don't need to go busto with QQ here imo.
I might flat pre & then and then check-raise this flop, fold to a re-raise. This is going to cost me less if I'm way behind, than by bloating up the pot pre and needing to invest a TON more post-flop, possibly committing my entire stack in early levels. I think we potentially get more value out of our hand this way & also have the oppurtunity to get away from it (I don't think TT raises to 4x pre here, & I don't think JJ will reraise our check-raise on the flop,.... but you never know in the early levels of the Daily $30K). Playing it somewhat safe, I think there are so many bad players in the Daily$30k that we're giving up our edge over the field by getting it in with QQ in early levels in this spot here.

 

[FTP_TheNuts]

You played every single street wrong fwiw

Heres what imho you should have done

Your flat pre isnt horrible, but im definately re raising to 500-600

The flop: Tbh ithink i shove there and then, or i atleast 3 bet him to about 1500, but your commiting yourself to the turn then anyway

The turn: omg omg, why are you checking, as played so far, im betting into this atleast 600, and if he comes over the top all in we snap call

The river: How we got here without getting it all in amazes me, imo there shouldnt even be any more action on this river, but going all in is all you can do, but i would have got it in flop and if not flop 100% turn.

You HAVE to remember, win or lose the hand its still important you play it correctely, it almost seems as though you were scared of that 2. If you lose this hand because your opponent turns over a full or trips, then you shrug it off knowing you played the hand correctely. You have no choice on this board but to get it in with your overpair

 

[FTP_TheNuts]

Also fwiw above comments people are underestimating the retardness of some players in these tourneys, you just hae to get it in on that board im sorry, if you are rolled for these tourneys and you get beat by AA KK, then its a sick cooler and you again shrug it off. Folding is wayyyy too nitty

 

[WarriorStoic]

ok thanks everybod for the input....I did win the hand
with QQ229
the villain turned ove 69 0ffsuit

 

[WarriorStoic]

Really? You think alot them are raising in early levels to 4x in eMP with 99? I beg to differ.
Because of it being early levels, I'm probably not 3-betting preflop here w QQ (am I considering 3-betting > fold to 4bet?). It's early levels >> we don't need to go busto with QQ here imo.
I might flat pre & then and then check-raise this flop, fold to a re-raise. This is going to cost me less if I'm way behind, than by bloating up the pot pre and needing to invest a TON more post-flop, possibly committing my entire stack in early levels. I think we potentially get more value out of our hand this way & also have the oppurtunity to get away from it (I don't think TT raises to 4x pre here, & I don't think JJ will reraise our check-raise on the flop,.... but you never know in the early levels of the Daily $30K). Playing it somewhat safe, I think there are so many bad players in the Daily$30k that we're giving up our edge over the field by getting it in with QQ in early levels in this spot here.

Ok Poker O Im picking up what your putting down, and basically i played it wrong on the flop turn and the river....... But I am thinking that my flat call pre flop was correct?

FTP....I obv need some agression lessons from ya.

 

[FTP_TheNuts]

Dude if your willing to learn thats all you need, just folding here is ridiculously nitty, sometimes you have to accept the coolers, but some people are absolute tards and there are too many of them, im sure your good here 80% of the time atleast.

 

[Poker Orifice]

You played every single street wrong fwiw

Heres what imho you should have done

Your flat pre isnt horrible, but im definately re raising to 500-600

The flop: Tbh ithink i shove there and then, or i atleast 3 bet him to about 1500, but your commiting yourself to the turn then anyway

The turn: omg omg, why are you checking, as played so far, im betting into this atleast 600, and if he comes over the top all in we snap call

The river: How we got here without getting it all in amazes me, imo there shouldnt even be any more action on this river, but going all in is all you can do, but i would have got it in flop and if not flop 100% turn.

You HAVE to remember, win or lose the hand its still important you play it correctely, it almost seems as though you were scared of that 2. If you lose this hand because your opponent turns over a full or trips, then you shrug it off knowing you played the hand correctely. You have no choice on this board but to get it in with your overpair

Villain's raising pre in early position with a low pp in early levels? How many of these have you played? (how many of them have you cashed in?... I'm just sayin'....)

 

[baudib1]

yes...I could show you literally hundreds of hand histories of people raising in EP/calling 3-bets pre with complete junk.

4-bet pre and call it off without a sick read.

 

[baudib1]

to wit:

No Limit Holdem Tournament
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10,000 Guarantee

Stacks:
UTG (3,465)
UTG+1 (3,305)
MP1 (2,575)
MP2 (2,835)
MP3 (3,315)
CO (2,980)
BTN (2,030)
SB (4,065)
Hero (BB) (6,030)

Blinds: 25/50

Pre-Flop: (75, 9 players) Hero is BB Q:diamond: Q:heart:
UTG raises to 125, 7 folds, Hero raises to 500, UTG calls 375

Flop: 3:club: 4:diamond: 9:spade: (1,025, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 625, Hero goes all-in 5,530, UTG goes all-in 2,340

Turn: 10:spade: (9,520, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 8:club: (9,520, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: 9,520
Hero shows a pair of Queens
Q:diamond: Q:heart:
UTG shows a pair of Eights
8:diamond: K:diamond:

Hero wins 9,520 (net +3,490)

UTG lost 3,465

 

[baudib1]

No Limit Holdem Tournament
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo)

Stacks:
UTG zikofly (2,025)
UTG+1 SybilWeWere (865)
MP1 BigGamesJames (1,775)
MP2 jmasterflush (1,245)
MP3 baudib1 (1,455)
CO jnileswyoming (1,555)
BTN kyot25 (105)
SB maize06 (1,460)
BB fool88 (3,015)

Blinds: 20/40

Pre-Flop: (60, 9 players) baudib1 is MP3 A:spade: A:diamond:
zikofly calls 40, 3 folds, baudib1 raises to 165, 4 folds, zikofly goes all-in 2,025, baudib1 goes all-in 1,290

Flop: 2:club: 4:heart: 2:diamond: (3,540, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 8:spade: (3,540, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: Q:spade: (3,540, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: 3,540
zikofly shows four of a kind, Twos
2:heart: 2:spade:
baudib1 shows two pair, Aces and Twos
A:spade: A:diamond:

zikofly wins 3,540 (net +1,515)

baudib1 lost 1,455