$11 MTT, semi-turbo, AT in EP

[ChuckTs]

I've been very TAG, the rest of the table is actually pretty TAG aswell save a couple of players who are a little looser PF.

Easy push or is it not good enough from EP?

pokerstars GAME #8522499399: TOURNAMENT #43326747, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/02/19 - 16:33:47 (ET)
Table '43326747 30' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: heartwild (6525 in chips)
Seat 3: FatboyInnes (5830 in chips)
Seat 4: C.Mau (4410 in chips)
Seat 5: SweetCherry (8640 in chips)
Seat 6: CPGR (5125 in chips)
Seat 7: asgawer (2820 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (5047 in chips)
Seat 9: ROBHITTA (3705 in chips)
heartwild: posts the ante 25
FatboyInnes: posts the ante 25
C.Mau: posts the ante 25
SweetCherry: posts the ante 25
CPGR: posts the ante 25
asgawer: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
ROBHITTA: posts the ante 25
SweetCherry: posts small blind 200
CPGR: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ac Td]
asgawer: folds
ChuckTs: ...

The only reason I found this a toughy is because of the turbo effect; blinds only recently hopped up to 200/400, but will soon enough be at 300/600. Do we have to start pushing at this point or wait for a better opportunity?

 

[Irexes]

I don't think I've ever played a turbo so take this with a pinch of salt...


What is your hoped for outcome? Is it for a call or to steal the blinds?

Cause stealing the blinds doesn't make a huge difference to your situation relative to the risk of pushing in early position.

In late postion the risk/reward is worth it so cutoff+1 or better then absolutely.

However if you want to get a call what is the range of the callers?

Presumably most pairs and AT+? So at best it's a coinflip.

Not much room for you I agree but I suspect better risk/reward situations than this.

 

[ChuckTs]

I guess my real question here is do we let our stack dwindle to <10BBs and wait for a higher % situation with a first-in allin or do we push to keep ourselves above 10BBs (as they will probably reach 300/600 by the time they hit us, if not then definitely next orbit)?

In terms of risk:reward, I think it's a pretty poor play, but my real issue is that by folding we let ourselves cross that shortstacked 'line', and enter the 'red zone'. I personally hate being shortstacked, but also hate pushing with AT utg...

As it played out, I folded and picked up a few hands good enough to push and keep up with the blinds.

 

[t1riel]

I'd fold here. Unsuited Ace Rag in early position is a bad situation to be in. I rather go all in with a weaker hand in the Big Blind if there is a good chance you can steal the blinds. You can at least see the other player's moves before you decide your move.

 

[Coryan]

Fold...but great question!

Chuck asks a great question. I would fold this in EP, but I feel that I may hold out too long when SSed. I find my chips getting eaten into very quickly in the Turbo tourneys when I am shortstacked.

I usually avoid the Turbos, except when I don't have time to play a lot and want to get in a quick SnG. I wonder if the Turbos are simply more suited for looser players?