$10 NLHE MTT: 4bet KK, A high flop, fml

[js520]

Early on in the tournament, only 9 hands on villain, what do we do here?

888 Poker - $10+$1|15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+2: 2,970 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 3,000 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP+1: 3,484 (VPIP: 70.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 3,390 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 3,596 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 2,786 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 2,960 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 3,060
UTG+1: 1,944 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

Hero raises to 120, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 210, fold, SB calls 195, fold, Hero raises to 810, CO calls 600, fold

Flop: (1,860, 2 players) T:club: T:diamond: A:heart:
Hero?

 

[MasterOfDisaster]

Your 4bet preflop is a bit 2 big imo.

I would probably take a check call line on the flop and go on from there, try to let worse hands in because this is often a situation way ahead or way behind.

 

[naruto_miu]

Your 4bet preflop is a bit 2 big imo.

I would probably take a check call line on the flop and go on from there, try to let worse hands in because this is often a situation way ahead or way behind.

Yeah I agree I don't like your 4bet sizing at all personally...I mean now your in an awkward spot, where If you bet, and they shove your in trouble...If you check and they bet, what are you gonna do on turn and river your at a loss, this is reason why I don't like massive 4bets IMO...

As MOD has stated, I'd take same approach, I mean in those 9 hands what is this players usual game plan? While it's very small, you can't just check and wave a white flag, yet at the same time, you can't dump another 900+ in there to test the waters...I personally would rather take a CC line and see, how they act on turn, and re-evaluate from there

 

[TEG2300]

The 4bet sizing is a problem as we now have just over a pot sized bet behind. I understand the other posts about the CC line however with a 4bet preflop if this villain bets into us I don't think we have the chips to call and evaluate. What card can hit on the turn that we are thrilled about? It almost seems like making the pot that big pre we have to decide to dump if and ace comes or shove all flops. I am probably totally wrong on this but when are we ahead if we check and he bets? Tough spot. I like a 4bet of around 500. What do you guys think?

 

[kissapig]

Right, by flatting from UTG you let the SB stay (no squeeze), post flop you are either way ahead or way behind. Play KK like TT and you should be all right.

 

[js520]

Yea the 4bet is very large but I thought it was better to extract max value here as he is quite clearly a fish