$1 NLHE: what should i do here?

[jonny17]

$1 NL HE: what should i do here?

Stacks:
* MP1 with 14320
* MP2 with 2500
* MP3 with 3740
* CO with 6778
* BTN with 12930
* SB with 5242
* BB with 1780
* UTG with 8580
* UTG+1 with 6720

Blinds:
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to UTG:A♥ Q♣
* * Sklansky group 3
Preflop:
* * Hero raises to 800
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP1 raises to 1,400
* * 6 players fold.
* * Hero calls [600]
* * Total folds this street: 7
* * Potsize: 3100
Flop:
* * 5♥ 3♣ 7♣

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What should i do here?

 

[Melkor]

Any reads at all on the villain? I would be 4-bet shoving preflop unless you have seen him minraise with big hands or he is stupidly tight. When we are OOP against a big stack I don't like calling so getting it in preflop will see us being called by junk like KJ and the like.

As played, we weren't the aggressor and have missed so no point in donk-betting out at a $1 tourney, check-fold.

 

[jonny17]

no reads just moved to table, i did bet and was pot committed and got re-raised all in called and he had aces.bad play all round then.

 

[Jillychemung]

FWIW, AQo UTG is a hand I fold unless the table is respecting UTG raises. As played you probably should fold preflop to the 3-bet unless you have a read that MP1 is light 3-betting most UTG raises.

 

[jonny17]

thanks for thoughts will take that on board.

 

[n2kfactor]

reraise for a utg raise means AQ is beat unless this is a freeroll OR he is pure bad

 

[LizzyJ]

As played, you should fold.

Alternate strategy. AQo UTG.....fold. Way out of position on a marginal hand.

 

[jonny17]

ok so is the genaral view not to play AQo utg at all then?

 

[Poker Orifice]

No,. .you can play it for sure.. but just be prepared to get away from if it if you think you're behind (if you get 3-bet... you're probably behind but of course depends on many things... ie. your table image, the way the table's been playing out, the guy who's 3-betting ya, etc. etc.).
A 'min-raise' preflop like this is just begging to be called,.. and will often insinuate AA or KK.
I don't know what the blinds were here, BUT I tend to raise a bit smaller than many, and from any position (unless I'm raising from the SB and am first in.. which is rare.. I'll only complete from SB with a good hand and if I'm raising I've got REAL good.. and will make the raise 3.5x -4x). Reg. raises when first in are 2.3-2.5x, This gives you the oppurtunity to disguise your hand strength, keeps you from being priced in on a hand you'd rather not call a shortstack shove with, and also opens you up to be 3-bet on your monsters. Now if you're raising all your opening hands like this, you'll be able to keep your opponents confused,.. whether it be AA or 7-9s.
For some opponents (and maybe actually for sure in the $1 mtt) you might have to raise larger preflop (some seem to want to defend their blinds,.. and even the small blind, for any price (idiots!)). If this is the case.. make 'em pay.
In a $1 mtt if I've called the min raise and whiffed the flop, I'm c/folding. Save your chips and get them in in a better spot. Sometimes winning means just 'not losing' chips.
GL on the tables!!

 

[Jillychemung]

ok so is the genaral view not to play AQo utg at all then?

You are in early position and thus on the flop you will only have the blinds to act before you. Now how comfortable are you going to be with AQo with a caller or 2 behind you with any flop that isn't Q high or makes broadway or is monotone in your Aces suit? Even an Axx flop will give you worries since AK will flat call an UTG raise a lot. You will find that there will be a lot more flops here that it will be wise to not make a c-bet from UTG that you would make a c-bet with if you were in LP.

Scenario 1
UTG AQo you raise 3xBB
CO calls & BTN calls
Flop is KQ4 with the K&4 same suit as your Q
How comfortable are you going to be in making a c-bet here?

Scenario 2
BTN AQo, folds to MP-2 who limps as does the CO
You raise 5xBB (3xBB+limp+limp)
BB calls, MP-2 folds, CO calls
Flop is KQ4 with the K&4 same suit as your Q
BB & CO check
How comfortable are you going to be in making a c-bet here?

Which scenario would you rather play AQo in?

 

[cardsDontMatter]

It may be the post or the link, but what are the blind levels at? I see you opened with 800.

 

[Jillychemung]

It may be the post or the link, but what are the blind levels at? I see you opened with 800.

Pot before the flop = 3100
2 non-blind players at 1400 each means the blinds were 100/200

 

[cardsDontMatter]

Pot before the flop = 3100
2 non-blind players at 1400 each means the blinds were 100/200

Oh, lol... duh.. thank you.

AS played, OP is being isolated. Range villain TT-AA, AK, AQ and value-betting.

Good cards in bad position = bleeders. Check/fold here.. don't fall for the check behind, either.

 

[santa fe slim]

I'd usually fold it. The reraise worries me a lot, and I don't personally like A-Q that much in the face of the reraise. It would depend somewhat where we are in the tourney.

 

[kowboys4]

You have to go with everyone else here. Once someone re-raises you and your with this hand UTG your beat. A K and to a lesser extent your A Q are some of the most overplayed hands in NL HE. Everyone should practive folding them more often especially post-flop.

 

[jonny17]

thanks for replies makes a lot of sense now reading all this

 

[soonerdel]

as played fold. u completely missed your hand.
4 bet pre flop could have given out more info on the re raiser.

 

[trucker103]

ace queen not solid after flop and if you play it to strong u will come up empty that hand has bitten me a lot as of late looks good but i have learned to get away from it a lot quicker than days gone by