$1.10 FL Stud: Oppinions on this hand please

[hunterT1000]

$1.10 FL Stud: Oppinions on this hand please

Hi Ive been pulling my hair out playing the micro tourneys on stars recently. Why?, I dont really know!
anyway, during a horse tourney tonight this hand came up and I would just like to know peoples opinions on how I played it.

pokerstars Game #30619032462: Tournament #178357719, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE (7 Card Stud Limit) - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/07/19 4:28:47 WET [2009/07/18 23:28:47 ET]
Table '178357719 3' 8-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mrpaul1776 (2419 in chips)
Seat 2: anne827 (3810 in chips)
Seat 3: hunterT1000 (6242 in chips)
Seat 5: twj9ball (2780 in chips)
Seat 6: the_chach69 (4145 in chips)
Seat 7: jone3159 (1710 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Sparky1one (5879 in chips)
Sparky1one: posts the ante 60
mrpaul1776: posts the ante 60
anne827: posts the ante 60
hunterT1000: posts the ante 60
twj9ball: posts the ante 60
the_chach69: posts the ante 60
jone3159: posts the ante 60
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to mrpaul1776 A♦
Dealt to anne827 <font color='black'>A♣</font>
Dealt to hunterT1000 [Qc Qd Ts]
Dealt to twj9ball <font color='black'>2♣</font>
Dealt to the_chach69 <font color='red'>4♥</font>
Dealt to jone3159 K♠
Dealt to Sparky1one <font color='red'>9♥</font>
twj9ball: brings in for 90
the_chach69: folds
jone3159: folds
Sparky1one: folds
mrpaul1776: calls 90
anne827: calls 90
hunterT1000: raises 210 to 300
twj9ball: folds
mrpaul1776: calls 210
anne827: calls 210
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to mrpaul1776 A♦ 2♥
Dealt to anne827 <font color='black'>A♣</font> <font color='red'>5<font face="arial">♦</font></font>
Dealt to hunterT1000 [Qc Qd Ts] [Tc]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
Zink Martel is connected
hunterT1000: bets 600
mrpaul1776: calls 600
anne827: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to mrpaul1776 [Ad 2h] J♥
Dealt to hunterT1000 [Qc Qd Ts Tc] 7♦
hunterT1000: bets 600
mrpaul1776: calls 600
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to mrpaul1776 [Ad 2h Jh] [Th]
Dealt to hunterT1000 [Qc Qd Ts Tc 7d] <font color='red'>A♥</font>
hunterT1000: bets 600
mrpaul1776: raises 259 to 859 and is all-in
hunterT1000: calls 259
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to hunterT1000 [Qc Qd Ts Tc 7d Ah] <font color='black'>K♣</font>
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mrpaul1776: shows [Kh Qh Ad 2h Jh Th 4c] (a flush, King high)
hunterT1000: shows [Qc Qd Ts Tc 7d Ah Kc] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
hunterT1000 said, "ffs"
mrpaul1776 collected 5528 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5528 | Rake 0
Seat 1: mrpaul1776 showed [Kh Qh Ad 2h Jh Th 4c] and won (5528) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: anne827 folded on the 4th Street
Seat 3: hunterT1000 showed [Qc Qd Ts Tc 7d Ah Kc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 5: twj9ball folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 6: the_chach69 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jone3159 (button) folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sparky1one folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)


Theres probably 500 hands Ive played recently which I could post here for abit of an ego boost, where players have drawn out with some rediculous runner runner draw. But this hand Im really not sure if I played it right or not. The guy who won the hand was terrible and Id been waiting to get in a pot with him for a while.

The question really is, knowing he will call any draw, should I have slowed down and stopped betting? My hand had alot of showdown value against this guy. Im hoping your gonna say I just got unlucky but be honest

 

[hunterT1000]

Just read the sticky about not posting results.. tried to edit it but my edit buttons disapeared! cant do much about it without the edit button not too sure whats going on. Can an op edit the results out for me please

 

[trewtrew]

this is why i dont play stud or razz any more. so many bad players call with nothing but run like god and beat me. My A A K ends up being trounced by a J 2 6. If u dont run bad i would advise playing a lot of the other games besides holdem and omaha as everyone plays them without really knowing what there doing. I was playing a horse game and whilst playing Razz an guy 4 bet me with a full house lol

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

I play limit stud in cash tables, so I can vouch for the ineptitude of the people that play the game. I try to play at least .10/.20, since the higher limit does weed out some lesser players.

However, if I can be the devil's advocate: I am holding KQ suited with an A. A player raises with a 10 showing. Now, if I pair one of my cards, or if another of my suited cards comes out, my hand will improve, so I call to see the next card. Granted, the call on fourth is questionable with the double pair, but I am already short stacked so whatever. After fifth street, with a straight and flush draw, I have lots of outs unless you fill up. The rest is history.

It is simply hard to bully people out in a limit game. Especially in a low buy-in limit game. I don't think you played the hand improperly. However, I think you underestimate the value of your opponent's hand compared to their stack.

 

[hunterT1000]

well written m8. If I hadn't double bet on 4th I could understand it but hey at the end of the day I wanted him to call with overcards, just not walk into a flush!

 

[nevadanick]

Once you got to 5th street villain was on a draw and was virtually pot committed. It was bet and pray time for him. He hit his draw, you didn't fill. Even if you had not placed the leadout bet, I would say you were going to showdown with villain all-in by 7th street no matter how you played it.

Once villain hit his flush, he would have been all-in by 7th street anyway and it's unlikely you would have folded your 2 pair before 7th street... unless... you think there was any way that the 3 board hearts gave you reason to believe villain hit his flush and you'd have made one heckofa laydown. Only one of your fill cards had been on the board, so playing to fill was not unreasonable either.

Not an uncommon situation in stud. 1 hand improved, the other didn't. BTW - even if he hadn't hit the hand as a flush, he hit his Broadway Str8... so he was still ahead.

You also had the chip advantage. Villain had to gamble some at this point. I don't really find a problem with the hand as played, but then, I've only played 7stud live since '69 ...

 

[hunterT1000]

Looking at his hand maybe it wasnt played as badly as I thought & I understand the points you're making. I think maybe because I mainly play NLHE now, i found the check-calling here frustrating to say the least. Does that make sence?

 

[ihtennis]

if there is a guy who is always betting, let him bet, you dont need to lead out, let him do stupid things with his crazy draws

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

Looking at his hand maybe it wasnt played as badly as I thought & I understand the points you're making. I think maybe because I mainly play NLHE now, i found the check-calling here frustrating to say the least. Does that make sence?

It absolutely makes sense. It tooks me hundreds of hands to get used to the fact that you cannot just push people out of pots with a large bet. It is easy in limit games to call one or two bets on a reasonable draw, top pair, or two pairs. I commonly check-call until seventh street on a hand that if it hits I know its the nuts.

However, I find that limit stud is a far less volatile game than hold 'em. I would stick with it, because it will make you a better hold 'em player in the long run.

 

[c9h13no3]

Looks pretty standard.