$1.1 NLHE MTT: Rejam or fold?

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UTG: 24,129 (60 bb)
UTG+1: 14,960 (37 bb)
MP: 15,500 (39 bb)
MP+1: 6,820 (17 bb)
CO: 25,091 (63 bb)
BU: 11,293 (28 bb)
SB (Hero): 12,370 (31 bb)
BB: 5,928 (15 bb)

Pre-Flop: (800) Hero is SB with 6 6
UTG calls 400, UTG+1 raises to 800, 1 fold, MP+1 3-bets to 6,795 (all-in), 2 players fold, SB (Hero) folds, 3 players fold

Hey,

So guy on UTG is a very bad regular, he could opens for example 15%, rejam guy is a fish, so he could rejam also about 15% 44+,A6s+,A8o+,KTs+,KJo+,QTs+ - something like that. With my 66 is fold, bottom is 88,99+, AQ+. What you think?
 
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I think is clearly fold with 66. this could be multiway pot, I agree you can make a call with that range 88,99+, AQ+, but be aware that has still 3 players to act, and the equity of you hand is not defined and can change a lot if one of then call. most of the time is better be the guy who will push all in than the guy who will only call.
 
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Pretty trivial fold in my opinion. You mention, that the UTG limper is a "very bad regular", but the more important players here are UTG+1, who minraised and MP, who jammed. UTG+1 has you covered, so if you get involved, you are risking 31BB against him. You are also risking 17BB against MP, who have taken a fairly strong action by jamming over this early position action.
 
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PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (25 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 24,129 (60 bb)
UTG+1: 14,960 (37 bb)
MP: 15,500 (39 bb)
MP+1: 6,820 (17 bb)
CO: 25,091 (63 bb)
BU: 11,293 (28 bb)
SB (Hero): 12,370 (31 bb)
BB: 5,928 (15 bb)

Pre-Flop: (800) Hero is SB with 6 6
UTG calls 400, UTG+1 raises to 800, 1 fold, MP+1 3-bets to 6,795 (all-in), 2 players fold, SB (Hero) folds, 3 players fold

Hey,

So guy on UTG is a very bad regular, he could opens for example 15%, rejam guy is a fish, so he could rejam also about 15% 44+,A6s+,A8o+,KTs+,KJo+,QTs+ - something like that. With my 66 is fold, bottom is 88,99+, AQ+. What you think?

Thank U 4 Posting

This is an easy fold. You have two early actions which suggest strong ranges so we are way behind on of those ranges very often. The shoving range alone has 77+ in it. The min raise of a limper suggests that player is not expecting folds so why not? AA KK AK?

If this a mistake to fold it is maybe 5% of the time which is not much of a mistake at all.

Hope this helps
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I would think that folding is your best option. There are still 3 active players to act, and you don't know how many people will end up continuing.
 
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PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (25 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 24,129 (60 bb)
UTG+1: 14,960 (37 bb)
MP: 15,500 (39 bb)
MP+1: 6,820 (17 bb)
CO: 25,091 (63 bb)
BU: 11,293 (28 bb)
SB (Hero): 12,370 (31 bb)
BB: 5,928 (15 bb)

Pre-Flop: (800) Hero is SB with 6 6
UTG calls 400, UTG+1 raises to 800, 1 fold, MP+1 3-bets to 6,795 (all-in), 2 players fold, SB (Hero) folds, 3 players fold

Hey,

So guy on UTG is a very bad regular, he could opens for example 15%, rejam guy is a fish, so he could rejam also about 15% 44+,A6s+,A8o+,KTs+,KJo+,QTs+ - something like that. With my 66 is fold, bottom is 88,99+, AQ+. What you think?
It is obvious fold, I think your range can be TT AKo AQs+ because you have few people after you so you need to give some edge!Moreover preflop push 17bb represents quite strong range so you need to push tighter!
 
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The safe play is a 100% to fold.

I do think there is a potential window where calling is correct - but that requires a massive read on the table. The hand would have to play out exactly as it did or you would have made a mistake.

The only way I would call in this situation is if I could gage the limp / raisers strength. If they had an “all in” capable hand, would they have played it differently? If you know that they will fold the majority of the time to the all in (and you’re ok with a head up race) it’s correct to call.

But those are big ifs and I wouldn’t feel comfortable with making those assumptions.
 
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