online poker ban

U

unlucky

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Total posts
42
Chips
0
typo in my first post it has not completley passed yet sorry
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
Joined
Jun 26, 2006
Total posts
6,794
Chips
0
As a UK citizen, I find this whole fuss crazy.

In the UK, we have a Government Agency which monitors all gambling (including poker). Their mission statement:

"The Gambling Commission regulates gambling in the public interest. It does so by keeping crime out of gambling, by ensuring that gambling is conducted fairly and openly, and by protecting children and vulnerable people."

Surely that`s got to be the way to go. In a free and democratic society, Government has no business banning people`s pastimes. It won`t work anyway, it`ll only drive it underground and see it run by gangters, remember Prohibition.
 
B

bellhead1970

Enthusiast
Joined
May 16, 2006
Total posts
30
Chips
0
Living in the US, but having dual EU & US citizenship, it looks like I will just change my address on my accounts to my EU address if I need to. If needed I think a demonstration of the million man poker march can be arranged on DC.
 
Tammy

Tammy

Administrator
Administrator
Joined
May 18, 2005
Total posts
52,824
Awards
10
US
Chips
1,003
bellhead1970 said:
Living in the US, but having dual EU & US citizenship, it looks like I will just change my address on my accounts to my EU address if I need to. If needed I think a demonstration of the million man poker march can be arranged on DC.
Let's do it! (Seriously...:))
 
Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

Charcoal Mellowed
Joined
Mar 26, 2005
Total posts
13,414
Chips
0
While there is a chance for this thing to actually pass, I'm guessing that the Senate is still entertaining their fair share of lobbyists.
 
JimboJim

JimboJim

Legend
Joined
Aug 11, 2006
Total posts
2,152
Chips
0
The government feels the need to regulate gambling. In a way they should. I feel that it would protect both us the gamblers and the casinos. On the other hand it would become almost impossible to regulate online gaming. They can't do it when it comes to pornography and they would havea hard time doing it with gaming. What should happen is to restrict 'legal' gaming to sites based in countries that co-operate with monitering the sites and revenue. It would solve tax-issues and game 'rigging'. That sould be the only concern of our government(s).
 
beardyian

beardyian

Scary Clown
Joined
Apr 3, 2005
Total posts
15,845
Awards
2
Chips
0
Whilst not entirely clear on how American laws pass, but from whati have read a lot of this is down also to appeasing the far-right religious nuts that seem to have a strong hand in theWhite House at the moment.

It seems stage 1 may have passed but at the moment that could be it for a while. It is almost like you been picked for the team but havent got the kit on yet and its not quite game day.

Yes the threat is there but just how are they going to work it - by asking credit card companies to pass on information :confused: sounds a little fuzzy to me and with several million online a week who is going to arrest everyone? where are they going to be held, what punishment is there :confused::confused:


As a few people have already mentioned - Invasion of Iraq, Israel attacking Lebannon, North Korea testing missles (why does no one talk about that one :confused:) Afghanistan, so called terror alerts, oh and global warming - but no:eek::eek: Must stop people playing poker online, behave, if that is a priority my already boiling pot of bile will spill :mad::mad::mad::mad:


Enjoy and Peace
 
JimboJim

JimboJim

Legend
Joined
Aug 11, 2006
Total posts
2,152
Chips
0
Well the government has a lot of people against gaming but the people that support their campaigns are for it because it brings in a lot of tax money. Here in West Virginia gaming has almost become necessary for some communities to survive. If they want gaming there they need to find a good excuse to not have it online.
 
Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

Cardschat Elite
Joined
Jul 20, 2005
Total posts
1,406
Chips
0
beardyian said:
Whilst not entirely clear on how American laws pass

Has nothing to do with people want or what is right. It has everthing to do with ..............................
 

Attachments

  • money.JPG
    money.JPG
    17.4 KB · Views: 57
J

Joe03681

Guest
Joined
Mar 18, 2006
Total posts
30
Chips
0
I'm not very knowledgeable on how all this stuff works, so what are the chances that the ban will actually pass??
 
JimboJim

JimboJim

Legend
Joined
Aug 11, 2006
Total posts
2,152
Chips
0
I give it a 50/50 chance of passing....but either way, enforcement will almost be impossible.
 
Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

Charcoal Mellowed
Joined
Mar 26, 2005
Total posts
13,414
Chips
0
Joe03681 said:
...so what are the chances that the ban will actually pass??

See the post directly above yours. This is America. It basically comes down to who can throw the most money at the politicians. Sad, yes, but true.

beardyian said:
...by asking credit card companies to pass on information...

Unfortunately, as I have read and understand it, over 99.9% of US based credit issuing facilities (e.g banks, credit unions, etc) will not allow you to use your credit card for online gaming.

For example, any online poker room or even at NetTeller, their merchant IDs have some type of classification so that credit card companies can deny them. I've personally experience this. So that leaves us with wire transfers or direct checking account transfers (although I haven't tried the latter). I don't believe the online ban is coming from the big four (V/M/Amex/Disc) otherwise no cards would ever work. But even at the lower institution level, they are refusing the charges to avoid fraud claims and changebacks that cost them too much money.

So this basically comes down to we all pay for it (by loss of credit card convenience) when these idiots out there charge $2000 to their credit card, don't know what they are doing, lose it all, then cry foul to the card company and get their money back.

*** JD has now left his soapbox.

P.S. - If any of the idiots mentioned above are here reading this, of course you know I didn't really mean it. You can't help that you're stupid. I just wish stupid was painful. :cool:
 
U

unlucky

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Total posts
42
Chips
0
When i first bought into a site I used my debt card which is also a visa. I have never had to re deposit any money but do use net-teller to transfer money between sites.
Anyways, If I had the choice between not playing and paying taxes on my profits I think I'd pay the taxes. Because that is what it is all about the government getting their so called fair share.
 
blankoblanco

blankoblanco

plays poker on hard mode
Joined
May 16, 2006
Total posts
6,129
Chips
0
Joe03681 said:
I'm not very knowledgeable on how all this stuff works, so what are the chances that the ban will actually pass??

I'd say we're all-in, holding 88 against the government's suited KQ going to the flop.
 
bubbasbestbabe

bubbasbestbabe

Suckout Queen
Joined
May 22, 2005
Total posts
10,637
Awards
1
Chips
0
Jack Daniels said:
So this basically comes down to we all pay for it (by loss of credit card convenience) when these idiots out there charge $2000 to their credit card, don't know what they are doing, lose it all, then cry foul to the card company and get their money back.

*** JD has now left his soapbox.

P.S. - If any of the idiots mentioned above are here reading this, of course you know I didn't really mean it. You can't help that you're stupid. I just wish stupid was painful. :cool:


DON"T TAP ON THE FISHTANK!!!
 
U

unlucky

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Total posts
42
Chips
0
I'd say we're all-in, holding 88 against the government's suited KQ going to the flop

this desribes the situation perfectly
 
Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

Charcoal Mellowed
Joined
Mar 26, 2005
Total posts
13,414
Chips
0
bubbasbestbabe said:
DON"T TAP ON THE FISHTANK!!!
Oh, don't me wrong. I like having the idiots/fish around. But I don't like giving up my conveniences because these people failed Commen Sense 101 and went crying to the credit card companies how they were taken advantage of.

So I'll compromise with you. I won't tap on the fishtank, but I still get to wish that stupid was painful.
;)
 
rotty

rotty

I triple dog dare ya
Loyaler
Joined
Jan 7, 2006
Total posts
3,785
Awards
5
US
Chips
7
Alon Ipser said:
Has nothing to do with people want or what is right. It has everthing to do with ..............................

I totally agree mr Alon. Money is all the government wants. Untill they find a way to receive their cut, it will stay illegal. I found this article from last year about the state of Washington and online horse race betting.(which is illegal in a large number of states today)Here is a little quote from a chairman of the horse racing commission.

'After the meeting, commission Chairman Gary Christenson rejected any notion that regulators were turning a blind eye to – or even rewarding – illegal gambling.
“It’s almost the opposite. By giving (Youbet.com) a license, we are insuring that the state of Washington is getting the money that’s due it. If we didn’t give them a license, it wouldn’t guarantee that they’d stop,” Christenson said. '

Here is the entire article.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/4861434p-4461705c.html
 
Top