Micro stakes Zoom on Stars

[Rybod]

Looking for other Micro stakes players on zoom, pokerstars.

I really like the format and speed. been doing well up until a few un-lucky , maybe call them bad calls on my part. down about $10 net in last few days.

no big deal.

but looking for some experienced zoom players for some tips / chat ?

 

[mkdrummey]

not experienced at all but I find it rigged. I have never seen so many AA vs KK at a 6 handed table. also how many times I lose with AA against lower hands. it has made me use the cashout option any time i'm all in with AA, and this has proved to be the right choice. I can't say I have increased my bankroll in any way playing zoom. I may win in one session but then lose the next.

 

[ventrolloquist]

Looking for other Micro stakes players on zoom, pokerstars.

I really like the format and speed. been doing well up until a few un-lucky , maybe call them bad calls on my part. down about $10 net in last few days.

no big deal.

but looking for some experienced zoom players for some tips / chat ?

The competition with zoom is a decent bit stronger than regular NL2/4. Your winrate will lilely be about half of what it is at regular tables.

My bit of advice is to steal wider from the button when you're the opener. People tend to defend less because they can just fast fold.

Something I also do is color code players if they 3bet my open from the blinds and just avoid stealing wide against them in the future. I wouldn't bother taking notes often, but having a color coding system for various player tendencies helps a bit if you run into them again.

 

[antonis32123]

not experienced at all but I find it rigged. I have never seen so many AA vs KK at a 6 handed table. also how many times I lose with AA against lower hands. it has made me use the cashout option any time i'm all in with AA, and this has proved to be the right choice. I can't say I have increased my bankroll in any way playing zoom. I may win in one session but then lose the next.

Well , I know what they say about the great number of hand per hour , day , week , that you play online , and the delusions that you might have about more bad beats that you experience than online games , blaming RNG or whatever , I also believe this is true (not 100% lol ) .
Although , I have to confess , I don't know about 6max ZOOM , but for 9max that I was grinding a lot in the past ....oh man .. So many AA vs KK , I was afraid to go all in , if not very low stacked , with KK , especially oop , I preferred 3 bet and see the flop , praying not for a 4 bet shove from the opponent , lol ..... Also many sets or sets over sets on the flop, lol . Better try to see the flop for a set or low flop with KK , QQ . The Jacks , most of the times for sets , 1010 99 also good for sets . AK , AQ in position , AKoop very carefully , bluffs not recommended so much , especially oop , great bets with very made hands to avoid bad beats or scary boards on later streets . I also play the 60% initial stack cap player strategy , waiting for a premium hand (AA,KK, set ) to get paid easily and easy double up against AK,AQ , etc which wouldn't call all in for 100 blinds , but for 50 or less they will . Anyway , this is me for 9 max 2nl (or 5nl in the past , which unfortunatelly is no more , too bad , it used to have less crazy and more TAG players than 2nl , especially some players regularly playing at it for whom I had some good notes , s*** , also I have the feeling they were willing to pay you more than the 2nl players who seem to me very sneaky playing carefully for every cent of this $2 max buy in hahahaha , wtf , lol )

 

[mkdrummey]

I have plenty of data from my recent zoom sessions that proves how many times my AA has been beaten and also how many times I've been up against 2 or more strong pairs one of which beat the AA. Thank god for cash out is all I can say.

Just because it may not happen to you don't take it that is the norm. There are factors at work behind the scenes as far as I'm concerned, Yes I am not a good player which is why I collect data to try and improve my game.

Also how many times have you been dealt AA in the big blind and found everyone just folds round to you while you're sat there short stacked? In my case a lot.

I think these games are full of bots.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I think these games are full of bots.

I think these threads are full of bad players and misinformation. Put it in the badbeatMEGA thread. OP is asking for help... from others who play this format.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Looking for other Micro stakes players on zoom, pokerstars.

I really like the format and speed. been doing well up until a few un-lucky , maybe call them bad calls on my part. down about $10 net in last few days.

no big deal.

but looking for some experienced zoom players for some tips / chat ?

I can offer you some tips/advice ... it's going to really depend upon how you play and how you adjust to others. At 2nl, for the most part it is ABC poker, being sure to value bet your strong hands. Also, as mentioned by another member above, it is a common trend for regs to be 3-betting wide from the blinds vs. LP open-raises. We can adjust by a) smaller raise sizing pre in LP vs. them b) flatting raises with a wider range w position (looking for postflop tendancies as many of them will be 'one & done'... some will not even follow through with Cbet. c) 4-betting light (< this I would do more at 5nl & above)

- Take notes!
- use color-coding system so you can quickly identify certain player types

 

[Rybod]

so far, it's a bit of everything. I do find most players are very tight, because they can be and still see a lot of hands.

Lost try to steal the blinds from the button with nothing, so they are an easy 3 bet for the win pre-flop about 80% of the time.

I find my positional play has been much better, or at least I am playing it better from zoom.

I'll probably go to some regular tables they few days and see how the sessions play out too.

color coding helps i find too.

I am open to any private messages to discuss the game play too.

I started using hand2note as well, trial so far. hand review is nice for the replay to see where I went wrong when I lose, also good to review when I win too..

I've come to find that most bets that at Pot+ or all in have it almost every time.

 

[antonis32123]

Some hands and how I personally like to play them , with mistakes or not

Sometimes I am afraid to call these hands oop for sets , my mistake , if there are two at least players in the hand AND cheap , better see them , even oop https://www.boomplayer.com/32487309_7EA28322ED
In middle position call if very cheap , later positions you can call x3Bb , especially with 2-3 players and 88+ (better 99+) . https://www.boomplayer.com/32487427_6190651CFE
(I folded cause I don't trust sets for less than 99+ , also it wasn't so late position , but for 2Bbs it's cheap , also many bet cr** hands like this guy , but if reraised big by another one from LP , just fold without second thought )

I never call such hands for more than 50 blinds , even in position , only if I have more than 200 Bbs and I reshove or bet very much , better reshove , or if I have 40 bigs or less . Yes KK , is very strong hand , but you have no idea on 2nl what they shove , not an AK hand that luckily hits the Ace , they might have a crazy hand that gets lucky , maybe Ax that hits the Ace and beats your QQ/KK . But yes , most of the times they DO have AA https://www.boomplayer.com/32487112_F4CB8A7E72



With Aces UTG or UTG+1try to trap them , sometimes in later positions but not recommended .
Most would say you have to get value from Aces by betting , even if you limped them initially . So they would disagree with limp shoving strategy . https://www.boomplayer.com/32487183_275BBD811A

But you have no idea the crap they play ,https://www.boomplayer.com/32487732_A5F4C64726
https://www.boomplayer.com/32487050_C527B457B9 (I was ready to call , lol )

bet , I shoved almost 200 Bbs covering everyone and he.... CALLS with a cr** hand !!! Such a sweat , even in shoves hahahahhaa https://www.boomplayer.com/32487812_1A268BC219
Be assured that if I 3 bet x3 and he had just called he would have his miracle hand on the flop , either one of his cr** cards and then shove and win or his cr** pp would complete a set and you would be doomed/F*****d , lol The previous time with AA CO I 3bet ip for 45-50 OMG blinds sb with 100 blinds (I did it on purpose thinking '' come on , if he has JJ- he will shove or fold , can't call ), he snapped called 88 !! , got his 8 on the flop and F*** me , they call everything !!! , another one with QJo , called my very very big 3 bet preflop , Jxx on the flop , me on the BB with AA bet on the flop , he shoved to my bet on the flop and got his miracle Q on the turn . And some say play ABC poker , with these guys , on these micro limits .......... You will NEVER go to higher stakes with this strategy , you will be stucked to 2nl for ever imo . That's why I buyin 50 bigs , to take advantage of these players and build stacks . They call ATC or AK , AQ , AJs , 88-JJ , etc preflop for 50 blinds easily , some even Arag , suited or not ...... But , wait a minute , there is no higher ZOOM 9max stakes, lol , on Stars 9max ZOOM only 2nl there is , lol , we're doomed to play 2nl for ever !!!!
*(9max 2nl and 5nl etc is different ofcourse from 6 max 2nl and 5nl etc )
**(Personally I play for fun 2nl or to generate easily rake , what profits can you have at these limits , lol )

Value bet always your good hands , they might pay anything https://www.boomplayer.com/32488025_6FCB7FC2D0

Play carefully KK AA postflop oop , ip bet on low cards flop , but be carefull not to bet one street if needed and call or fold on the river . If the opponent keeps on betting oop in a low flop keep on calling until the river if the bets are not potbets or crazy , if oyu make a made hand bet big 2/3 of the pot if they check , they might call with KK/AA or another made hand , sometimes cr** lol https://www.boomplayer.com/32487552_C66D4B50B3

1st most rediculous hand on 2nl that I have played until now was some years ago on 2nl ZOOM 9max , when I had 500Bbs (10$) , another big stack had the same stack (10$-500Bbs ) nad there were 3 flush club hands on the turn , I had the Acxc , he had King high club , I shoved on the river ip and got a call , so deep , what crazy players do exist in 2nl , he couldn't fold second best flush in no paired board for 500 BLINDS !!!! Got a nice 1000Bbs stack , I kept on playing for 1 more day NON-STOP until I couldn't keep my eyes open !! (needless to say I got my chromestar status just from these 2days , lol)

2nd most rediculous hand maybe this one today. They try so passionately '' these nigh high like a boss players '' to win , setting traps waiting for a sucker , and then they fall in the hole/grave they were digging for the others , lol https://www.boomplayer.com/32487040_B02F1834CB Play passively these hands until they show aggressiveness

If you have 99 or 1010 and the board is paired giving you FullHouse , be always carefull of other high cards , like J, Q, K ,A that might complete a better FH , don't think you are pot/hand committed especially deep stacked , especially when you have second or third best FH https://www.boomplayer.com/32487021_5895251D83
I have seen too many times , even on the flop on the ZOOM 9max , someone to have the best set and another the second best set , or generally two sets on the flop , be prepared for anything !!!! I recommend playing not very aggro or even passively lower sets .

I remember such a hand , I had 1010 deep stacked ip and 1010 on the flop giving me quads ,luckily two other players were betting 3 betting , I was just calling , one bet big on turn , just called , again big bet on the river , I shoved , he folded , lol , probably the best fold I have seen in my poker life , he might have had AA FH and nothing less , lol But these hands are extremelly rare

Last advice , Be Afraid of me when you see me on 2nl ZOOM !!!!!! *just kidding*

Good Luck for your ZOOM games :ciao:

 

[antonis32123]

Also , forgot to mention , take notes and tag them with colour , regarding to their gamestyle and looseness more or less . I am bored to write notes , unfortunatelly , but i tag them with colours

Orange if they are extremelly loose , betting cr** UTG or oop , trying to f*** by all means , ATC , calling crazy bets with silly or weak hands , extremelly loose players , For just loose/very loose , risky but not crazy extremelly aggro players like the orange ones , I tag them red . For dangerous very good players, sometimes sneaky but very good indeed , with yellow to avoid them like poison LOL , but these are rare in 2nl 9max ZOOM . For easy players (bad calls , tight , fold too much . not reraising preflop very good hands ip , players ready to fold oif pressured , etc) i use green or blue if they are easy but not so much (or I am not sure yet they are ) . For players that play in a ubnormal insidious way , as if they have huge bankroll , play for fun , or don't care or anything else , but their common place is that they see/play ( usually loose hands) , but in a SNEAKY way as if they try to F*** anyway in a duvious sneaky way when you show aggression or try to fool you big time with strange bet/call/shove line preflop or postflop , I tag them with pink ...............