Full tilt warning

[Brann6]

I've used it to great effect against allin bingo players. It's only happened twice, but I watched tables tighten up incredibly as guys went allin every hand. (Hard to call when you're getting 92o on a regular basis.)

In any event, both times, the bingo players went allin and won with garbage in the first or second hand, doubling and tripling up. Since I wasn't even getting hands that could beat half their 99% range, I decided to stall. It kept them from chipping up rapidly by stealing the blinds at high speed. Nothing like a "donk" (me) to slow down their plans, eh?

Others started letting the clock run and the bing players had their tactics was stalled. The tables settled down, others gave some thought to things I guess, and the whole table's range, in each case, broadened enough to where both were out in a few hands.

If you'd just been observing for a short while or had just been moved, I'm sure you would've thought I was the biggest jerk at the table.

The timer's mine to use...report me if you like.

 

[Cowboy8112]

FT doesnt have a leg to stand on here. I would file a complaint with them against the person that sent you the letter.
Favortism of any kind should not be permitted by the staff at FT or at any site. If you can get a player on tilt by slow playing the clock, do it. If FT has an issue with that they should shorten the clock.

 

[CAPT. ZIGZAG]

FT doesnt have a leg to stand on here.

That's right.

It's my time, and I'll do with it what I want.

What? Are they mind readers?

Full Tilt Poker strives to create an atmosphere that is free from any type of
harassment towards other players. We ask that you participate in our games in a
sportsmanlike fashion, and respect the desire of the other players to play the
game at a reasonable pace.

What rubbish.

I don't like it either. But I'll fight for their right to do it. :deal:


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[Cowboy8112]

clock manipulation IS part of poker, no one player should be forced to change thier method of play to please another, even if it is an annoying method. The clock has a certain number seconds on it and players are free to use them ALL. or SHOULD be.

 

[no1here]

I make use of the clock all the time and it is not to piss off or taunt anyone. To me it is part of the game as in any other sport and I take full advantage of it.

 

[Pothole]

If they want to stop what they consider to be clock abuse, they should include a "clock" or "time" button that if 3 players click on, the supposed clock offender has 5 secs to act. IMO, it's your time clock to use how you wish, if the other players don't like it, tell them to sod off and play super turbo's.

 

[left52side]

I always thought they gave the time clock for a reason.\
I thought you could take as much time as it allowed you to to make desions.

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

I'm really surprised about this, main reasons being:

1) When I email Full Tilt it takes them about two days to respond (compared to about 15 minutes for pokerstars), and then they just send me a standard email which makes it quite clear that they couldn't care less. For example I notified them of an instance where a player was making EXTREMELY offensive racist comments to another player, and they emailed back a couple of days later to explain how I could turn chat off if I didn't like it, and next time could I please email chatabuse@fulltilt instead of support@fulltilt

2) They allow all sorts of things that PokerStars don't, such as people begging at the tables, and people speaking foreign languages

3) This was a tournament

4) This was play money

 

[PattyR]

full tilt does not allow other languages to be spoken.


i thought english had to be used at all times

 

[tpb221]

Why didn't you report him? On stars I called a moderator when a "poker cop" threated to report everybody for every perceived wrong. The mod came and seen what was going on and told him he will take care of any problem if their where any. Poker cop told him he wasn't doing his job well-Mod cut his chat instantly. Funny as hell.

 

[Egon Towst]

They allow all sorts of things that PokerStars don't, such as people begging at the tables, and people speaking foreign languages

Actually, both are against their rules and should be reported.

I agree their support doesn`t seem particularly energetic, though. Like you, I have also had the experience of receiving an obviously standardised and not wholly appropriate/relevant reply to a complaint, suggesting that they don`t give such things individual attention.

 

[GMBoy]

Its up to you in general , its your time so the time you are investing in it should let your choice be free for full reminding time you get.

 

[dj11]

I am surprised at the number of CCers who appear to think that deliberate delaying in a tourney is a sound tactic.

Leaving aside the question of whether that is within the spirit of the rules or fair to others, it is weak play imo. If you are a strong player and have an edge over others at your table, you should seek to play more hands, not fewer. Your edge is worthless while you are not playing.

Are you all saying that you are worse than the average player ?

If, in a tourney, you find yourself near the bubble, short stacked and card dead, you think you should speed up the game? So maybe the blinds will get to you all that much faster, weakening your position even more?

When near the money, I want you in my tourney, at another table, speeding it along thus giving me a better chance of being inside that bubble.

I don't think it is a weak/strong play thing at all. I think it is correct thinking to enlarge my chances of being in the bubble, not outside it.

But that is the only place where I feel this way. I use it, and tolerate others using it at bubble time. Otherwise it irks me a little. But it doesn't irk me as much as a bad run of beats.

For those of you who seem to me to be overly anxious about getting on with it, might I suggest blackjack, it moves at a pace you probably prefer.
Or maybe poker machines at the bar.........

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

They are my chips and my time. If FT wants to tell me how to spend them then let them give them to me. And before anyone says that technically they did give them to him, (play chips), way to go for them to alienate a potential cash depositor.

The time they give is for me to do what I want with it. If I want to wind down the play clock then so be it. It is part of the game. If you don't like it don't play. Personally if I knew a player was doing that every hand I would use that time to get a soda, stretch and do other things to keep me fresh and focused on taking his chips.

 

[Egon Towst]

For those of you who seem to me to be overly anxious about getting on with it, might I suggest blackjack, it moves at a pace you probably prefer.
Or maybe poker machines at the bar.........

Hmm. Tetchy. Are you having a bad day, DJ ??

You are perfectly welcome to play any style you think best. My own preference, in the sort of low M/high risk environment we are describing, is to ramp up the aggression and take chips from those afraid to play.

 

[serendipity]

I'm a methodical player who uses a lot of time virtually every hand. I do this because sometimes I like to consider a decision carefully and sometimes I don't. But I don't want to give those times away, therefore, I almost always take the full allotted time. I haven't received a warning yet. Guess I would have to find another poker room if I did.

 

[dublin_kopite]

I don't understand, if FTP give you 15 seconds every hand and you make use of the 15 seconds given how can they complain? Why not give you 11 seconds..or 5 seconds? So what if it annoys people, if your taking the time which is alloted to you then i can't see where FTP have a leg to stand on. I'd fire in a complaint, and maybe get some funds transfered to your account for the 'emotional stress' this has caused. Tell them, since that email, every time you hear a clock ticking, you panic and run..

 

[lillebusy]

I should use the time

Lots of people are responding that they are using much more time than I do.

There are often situations I wish I had thought out better before acting. I think after reading this thread I'll take more time, not less

 

[Heatherbrianne1]

That always happens when im at a table.. Its so annoying.. They MUST pull out there interenet connection or do the interenet block!... When u raise they automatically "disconnect".. I defiantly very annoying!

 

[Cowboy8112]

I think alot of you are missing the point, or at least as I see it.
FT, or someone representing FT, sent a warning to someone for useing a method of play that is LEGAL. This sounds alot like favortism by someone at FT towards the whiner. THAT is what I take exception to.

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

I defiantly very annoying!

Defiantly!

 

[robert_wrath]

This rule would only apply toward live cash games or maybe live playchip side games. I don't see this warning focused on tournament games. Time banks are provided for tournys. It's part of the game regulations due to multi screening. If your intentions are play chip side games, get a life, your a loser for doing so.

 

[bredstik]

I suppose it is technically legal, but taking every available second just to fold every hand is just a tactic to try and get everyone at the table pissed off. I have no problem with people taking as much time as they need on a particular hand, or even milking it as we get toward bubble time. But people who do it EVERY hand, and then tell you that they're going to use every possible second and that there's nothing you can do about it, well I think that goes against the spirit of the game.

Even the pros on TV comment when someone starts using too much time and threaten to put a clock on them after a while. Could you imagine if a pro said that they were going to take the maximum amount of time on EVERY play? Those guys would be livid and verbally tear the guy apart.

 

[PlayedYou73]

i'm just surprised that a play chip tournament is generating this much discussion....

 

[langrealtor]

One reason I enjoy playing on Full Tilt is there is not a lot of Chat. I am there to play, not to be didstracted buy a lot of meaningless banter. I do think that abusive people shoukd be banned.