Bots on poker sites?

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There were and will be, personally I think that the owners of the bots themselves sites(((( but again this is my personal opinion without any arguments and specific charges in someone's address.
 
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There were and will be, personally I think that the owners of the bots themselves sites(((( but again this is my personal opinion without any arguments and specific charges in someone's address.

gotta admit - seems like the most logical choice - easy to install, wait until players catch you to delete, then start over, no risk, then only give a portion of the money back (pokerstars 2015).

i hate to spread this around but i half believe it is the sites - how hard would it be to find these bots, just run a diagnostic on players and see who plays 24 hours a day - and then duh - there it is, easy peasy, but they dont do it - why?
 
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Bots are out there... just google and youd be able to purchase one for a yearly fee. I dont think they have a major advantage over the average player, but if they play a lot of volume these maybe profitable.

Poker rooms that allow them are aware, and they are able to detect them and disable them, they just dont. More rake in the end.
 
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i hate to spread this around but i half believe it is the sites - how hard would it be to find these bots, just run a diagnostic on players and see who plays 24 hours a day - and then duh - there it is, easy peasy, but they dont do it - why?

now when you wrote this,I'm starting to believe that bots actually exist :eek:
 
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I think there are, and their owners are poker rooms.
 
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I don't think they really exist to high enough percentage that it requires any trepidation while playing on any of the major sites. Some of the other less regulated sites you may be taking a larger risk.
 
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now when you wrote this,I'm starting to believe that bots actually exist :eek:
....We know that bots do exist. The question is, how to exploit them?. Anything mechanical can be exploited once we know their tendencies. Any ideas ? Maybe time to do some research. It could prove profitable. I read somewhere that bots only raise and fold , i doubt that , but someone out there must have an idea of a bots main tendencies.
 
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Maybe time to do some research. It could prove profitable. I read somewhere that bots only raise and fold , i doubt that , but someone out there must have an idea of a bots main tendencies.

allamericanboob,
Are you referring to 'a bot' or a 'bot'? Because I have a feeling that there'd be a wide range of different bots & an even wider range of how they're programmed to play. So to wonder what a bot's main tendencies are doesn't really make sense... unless you're referring to 'a' bot (as opposed to 'b' bot, 'c' bot, a1 bot, etc.).
 
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Can anybody translate?

Anyway,there was no misconception. You asked us to estimate the percentage of players that are bots, my estimate is zero. You cant prove they exist any more than I can prove they dont.

Bot-tard is just another thing losing players have to blame, rather than their own ability (or lack of).

You weren't aware that there are bots playing online poker? I'm actually very surprised by this. Haven't you ever played on a site where the site will come onto your chatbox and request that you type in specific words, showing that you're not a bot? (this used to happen on Stars alot, years ago).
 
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You weren't aware that there are bots playing online poker? I'm actually very surprised by this. Haven't you ever played on a site where the site will come onto your chatbox and request that you type in specific words, showing that you're not a bot? (this used to happen on Stars alot, years ago).

Hasn't ever happened to me, but they can tell by my style that I'm real and a fish.

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unless you're referring to 'a' bot (as opposed to 'b' bot, 'c' bot, a1 bot, etc.).
 
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Well bots on poker sites are everywhere. It is a strategy of the owner to attract real players. It is also a way to fill vacant slot in a poker room.
 
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People the New York Times did a good article about bots and also within 1 search of Google I found several company's who do sell bots. The New York Times article was a good read, it even talks about how full tilt got rid of their bots and booted the played and took their winnings at the cost of full tilt losing a lot of money from possible rake. Google it, it's true but there is so much a bot can not determine. Also there has been research going on about poker bots for years by university's.
 
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Im not real sure i even understand the bots im sure there on there. But are they good? do they win? Are they readily available. I hear a lot on forums about them and people accuse them at tables.

so until i really understand them i guess i probably wouldn't be able to spot one
 
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Bots on BOL

I play regularly on BOL, thier freerolls and micro MTTs. I don't believe everyone with a foriegn location display is a bot. BUT I have noticed patterns in some of thier plays that makes me suspicous. Only because I've noticed the same exact patterns from players with relevant locations. ALL in ALL it's really difficult to say whether any player is programmed or real. All we can do is speculate, without proof or hard evidence it's all just theoretical. I have read articles by old pros saying they have been paid to program bots. I do believe they exist but the thing is, it's cyber space. No real way of knowing. When I played on Pokerstars YEARS ago before it's tragic departure from the United States, I remember being sent a Bot / Real person check after winning a MTT by Pokerstar's security. Perhaps if all sites did this and continued to do so in several tecniques we could elminate alot of bot play. But to completely eliminate the problems existance, in my opinion is impossible.
 
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it is cruel tro use bots, they must be punished!!!
 
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I was reading a topic on the 2+2 forum about bots on 888poker.Some players have evidence.I think i met once a bot on 888, why i think it was a bot is the speed of decisions (check,call, bet, raise in under 1 sec).Theres also a site selling bots for various sites, just google 888 Poker 2+2 bots
 
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google poker bots there you will see, they do exist and can even own one. Im not real sure how there work or if there any good, but im sure some smart guy somewhere probably has one that does work.

this link provides a company that claims they have one you can buy Shanky technologies, and that they were the company that sold the bots that had over 50k confiscated from a poker site. so it does show pokerstars does not allow them. But other sites turn there head to them. ill try and find the link to the article about the bots.

http://www.bonusbots.com/

here we go here's the article on the bots from newyork times pretty intereting

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/science/14poker.html?_r=0
 
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Sometimes your partner looks like bot player when you loose
 
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allamericanboob,
Are you referring to 'a bot' or a 'bot'? Because I have a feeling that there'd be a wide range of different bots & an even wider range of how they're programmed to play. So to wonder what a bot's main tendencies are doesn't really make sense... unless you're referring to 'a' bot (as opposed to 'b' bot, 'c' bot, a1 bot, etc.).
.........Have you perchance been ingesting magic mushrooms which are quite prolific out there in British Columbia ? Everything i stated makes perfect sense.
 
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which online site(s) had a poker bot scandal ?
 
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I know on free zynga poker from facebook theres bots..
 
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Wouldn't know one if it ...

How can you tell if "bot"?
 
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There are some bots here and there but if you are playing non limit games like No limit holdem then you don't have too much to worry about as the bots can be taked advantage of just like other bad players. Limit offers a bit of a different problem as the optimal strategy is much easier to solve and thus program.
 
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Fight the good fight...

I play regularly on BOL, thier freerolls and micro MTTs. I don't believe everyone with a foriegn location display is a bot. BUT I have noticed patterns in some of thier plays that makes me suspicous. Only because I've noticed the same exact patterns from players with relevant locations. ALL in ALL it's really difficult to say whether any player is programmed or real. All we can do is speculate, without proof or hard evidence it's all just theoretical. I have read articles by old pros saying they have been paid to program bots. I do believe they exist but the thing is, it's cyber space. No real way of knowing. When I played on Pokerstars YEARS ago before it's tragic departure from the United States, I remember being sent a Bot / Real person check after winning a MTT by Pokerstar's security. Perhaps if all sites did this and continued to do so in several tecniques we could elminate alot of bot play. But to completely eliminate the problems existance, in my opinion is impossible.
Even if I could spot a bot what could I do about it? Can only hope development of bot busters!
 
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there was a case see once only it was on stars, players at 60% of hands he played textbook check raise 3 bet and fall the street the flash
 
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