Online poker is back for the state of Michigan! As of Friday, the online casinos are officially in operation.

Michigan becomes the fifth state with legal internet poker sites in operation, joining Nevada, Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. PokerStars is also available in two of those states — Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Wolverines (and Spartans) Rejoice as PokerStars Officially Launches in Michigan

This is good for poker.

Great news

Originally Posted by Shells

Online poker is back for the state of Michigan! As of Friday, the online casinos are officially in operation.

Michigan becomes the fifth state with legal internet poker sites in operation, joining Nevada, Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. PokerStars is also available in two of those states — Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Wolverines (and Spartans) Rejoice as PokerStars Officially Launches in Michigan

But I did not see any American players yet in Poker Stars Shells or do they have another PS platforms different from Pokerstars.com? Good news for US players anyway!

great news indeed !!!

Good for online poker, bad for Michigan's budget

Originally Posted by Johnny78B

But haven't I seen any American players yet on Poker Stars Shells or do they have other PS platforms other than Pokerstars.com? Good news for US players anyway!

Interesting question, where are the Americans?

Originally Posted by Johnny78B

But I did not see any American players yet in Poker Stars Shells or do they have another PS platforms different from Pokerstars.com? Good news for US players anyway!

The state of Michigan will have their own platform. They won't be able to join or register for anything under PokerStars.com.

quote from the article -

But, it should be noted that players in Michigan will only be competing against others within the state, not on the global platform.

And this little snippet below is from the PokerStars Blog.
Meanwhile, for more information about PokerStars, poker players in Michigan are invited to visit PokerStars MI.
https://www.pokerstars.com/en/news/pokerstars-launches-in-michigan/69124/

Are there many states in USA, there gambling is forbidden?

Originally Posted by finaltable1

Good for online poker, bad for Michigan's budget

How is this bad for Michigan's budget? I am thinking the state likely wouldn't have agreed to this arrangement with PokerStars if they didn't benefit from it somehow.

This is fantastic news.
It feels wonderful to actually have a regulated client with an actual reward program again. (For a recreational player).

Michigan just keeps giving me more reasons to love this state.

Definitely great news for all Americans who live there. Will be there any kind of limitations on Pokerstars or not ? Hope they will join in all PS events now

awesome, I'm from Michigan. Can't wait to play and finally be in some of the freerolls on this site (haha). Good luck me!

Originally Posted by Shells

How is this bad for Michigan's budget? I am thinking the state likely wouldn't have agreed to this arrangement with PokerStars if they didn't benefit from it somehow.

yeah this is a decision that benefits Michigan financially.

As I understand it, physical casinos were given the license to go online and PStars partnered with some indian casino that got a license.

I'd say it's weird (supposed to be like a protection for gambling losses Indian casinos will sustain?) that PStars has to go through an Indian casino but this is definitely in the financial benefit for the state by FAR.

That's a good news! America's back again. I could see many Americans in play money tables. Now we need more friends in real money tables.

very good news
if the USA returns to poker stars it will be a new era of online poker

Thats great to hear, hopefully we can get a Federal Solution and everyone can play.

Big news for us in the USA. I would love to play on PS again for real money.

Originally Posted by armoko

Definitely great news for all Americans who live there. Will be there any kind of limitations on Pokerstars or not ? Hope they will join in all PS events now

Anyone playing on PokerStarsMI will only play against others in the state of Michigan... at least for now. They will not be able to play on any of the real money events on PokerStars.com.

i am happy for them. Just wish my retarded state would allow it. Sadly i doubt it will.

Originally Posted by Luvepoker

i am happy for them. Just wish my retarded state would allow it. Sadly i doubt it will.

Hey I don't know which state is yours, but if Indiana can put forth a bill to legalize, that means any podunk state might have a chance.

Originally Posted by belladonna05

Hey I don't know which state is yours, but if Indiana can put forth a bill to legalize, that means any podunk state might have a chance.

That does give me some hope. NY has been a state that has been thought to be one of the next state but there is not enough money to make them do it. I will keep on hoping.

Originally Posted by Luvepoker

That does give me some hope. NY has been a state that has been thought to be one of the next state but there is not enough money to make them do it. I will keep on hoping.

Well see, there you go, you live in a much less podunk state than I do, so there is a glimmer of hope. How the papsa repeal didn't equally apply to poker still boggles my mind.

Originally Posted by Shells

How is this bad for Michigan's budget? I am thinking the state likely wouldn't have agreed to this arrangement with PokerStars if they didn't benefit from it somehow.

Online poker in it's current state is a terrible loss for any budget, it hurts both budget of players society as a whole, and budget of any country or organisation.

Subscription based online poker can be a solution, while current system which is based on rake is nothing but robbery.

Why?

There is no difference for computer when it hosts a freeroll or $1.1 buy-in MTT or $109 buy-in MTT. In all 3 cases computer will consume some few kilowatts of electric energy and some Gbytes of internet traffic, in general it costs something like couple of dollars. Maybe tens of dollars. At the same time if this computer hosts 100K grtd tournament then it will generate thousands of dollars in rake during several hours. It's a huge hit for all participants if we'll think about players as a structure. In other words in like 11 days of daily 100K grtd tourney PokerStars will earn $100K profit, for providing a service based on PC that is turned on.

So if we'll think about the transaction between two structures, one of them is PokerStars and other structure is ALL players, then transaction looks like this: All deposited money are going directly to PokerStars during some period of time.



Online casinos must switch to subscription system, like Netflix for example and stop robbing players society.

So, assuming said above I can't see how this can be profitable for state of Michigan or some other state or country? They're giving license in exchange for some amount of money, it's like PokerStars bought a permission to rob citizens of Michigan.

so i will visit our son in Detroit, and having some Fun online if the weather is bad - funny

GREAT : more aggressive players to deal with!!!!!

Originally Posted by finaltable1

Online poker in it's current state is a terrible loss for any budget, it hurts both budget of players society as a whole, and budget of any country or organisation.

Subscription based online poker can be a solution, while current system which is based on rake is nothing but robbery.

Why?

There is no difference for computer when it hosts a freeroll or $1.1 buy-in MTT or $109 buy-in MTT. In all 3 cases computer will consume some few kilowatts of electric energy and some Gbytes of internet traffic, in general it costs something like couple of dollars. Maybe tens of dollars. At the same time if this computer hosts 100K grtd tournament then it will generate thousands of dollars in rake during several hours. It's a huge hit for all participants if we'll think about players as a structure. In other words in like 11 days of daily 100K grtd tourney PokerStars will earn $100K profit, for providing a service based on PC that is turned on.

So if we'll think about the transaction between two structures, one of them is PokerStars and other structure is ALL players, then transaction looks like this: All deposited money are going directly to PokerStars during some period of time.



Online casinos must switch to subscription system, like Netflix for example and stop robbing players society.

So, assuming said above I can't see how this can be profitable for state of Michigan or some other state or country? They're giving license in exchange for some amount of money, it's like PokerStars bought a permission to rob citizens of Michigan.

What you are stating does make sense but I plan to research it a bit more. This much I did find out (so far) - PokerStars is basically sponsored through the Odawa Casino Resort which makes me wonder what they would in turn pay to the state. (there has to be some money exchange hands otherwise Michigan would have squashed the bill with no further discussions)

In the meantime, I did find an article with even more information about the other potential poker sites planning to come to the state of Michigan.


https://www.michigansharp.com/online-poker/

This is great news, hopefully little by little more states will join in the legalization of online games. Hopefully in the future online poker will be legal throughout the United States and that they can play with the rest of the world, this would make online poker grow

Great news, but I'd love to see American players at pokerstars.com but alas they will have a game only for their own.It would certainly be interesting to play with them on the same site)

Congratulations to all USA players from Michigan, that is some good news to the poker world

This is a great news. Hopefully many more states will follow

Originally Posted by Shells

The state of Michigan will have their own platform. They won't be able to join or register for anything under PokerStars.com.

quote from the article -

But, it should be noted that players in Michigan will only be competing against others within the state, not on the global platform.

And this little snippet below is from the PokerStars Blog.
Meanwhile, for more information about PokerStars, poker players in Michigan are invited to http://pokerstarsmi.com/.
https://www.pokerstars.com/en/news/pokerstars-launches-in-michigan/69124/

Would Michigan players have to create a new account on PokerStars just to play with players only from their own state? Online poker coming to Michigan is great for the players of that state as well as good for poker, but when will Michigan players be able to play against the rest of the world on Pokerstars (play chips or real money) and when will Michigan players be able to join Pokerstars freerolls through CardsChat?

As a Michigan player, I'm eager to hear what news is coming soon!

Originally Posted by armoko

Definitely great news for all Americans who live there. Will be there any kind of limitations on Pokerstars or not ? Hope they will join in all PS events now

Hope so too, but it sounds like right now it is only Michigan players playing against other Michigan players?

Originally Posted by fierysausage

awesome, I'm from Michigan. Can't wait to play and finally be in some of the freerolls on this site (haha). Good luck me!

+1 Hello fellow Michigan-der; I'm here for the CardsChat freerolls on Pokerstars when they come out too

Originally Posted by ataraxyan

That's a good news! America's back again. I could see many Americans in play money tables. Now we need more friends in real money tables.

Agreed. Been playing with play chips for practice and bankroll discipline I'd like to join in with the rest of you all at Pokerstars real money events/freerolls

Originally Posted by Roger1960

Big news for us in the USA. I would love to play on PS again for real money.

Would be a first for me, but hope to join in on the games

Originally Posted by Luvepoker

i am happy for them. Just wish my retarded state would allow it. Sadly i doubt it will.

Same feeling I had months ago, but seems like my state is next. It is a domino effect though; once a few states get it, then the others would be more likely to do the same.

I congratulate Michigan residents !!! PokerStars is a great poker platform !!! I think that over time, the restrictions on poker in the US will disappear and you can play at PokerStars.com or in the lunch pool all over the US, which is great too !!!

Nice! Looking forward to play with some American buddies haha! �� ������

Originally Posted by Phoenix Wright

Would Michigan players have to create a new account on PokerStars just to play with players only from their own state? Online poker coming to Michigan is great for the players of that state as well as good for poker, but when will Michigan players be able to play against the rest of the world on Pokerstars (play chips or real money) and when will Michigan players be able to join Pokerstars freerolls through CardsChat?

As a Michigan player, I'm eager to hear what news is coming soon!

I am assuming that you will not have to create a new account but I'm sure you will find out once you log into PokerStarsMI.

Did you happen to read the other news link posted (not a CC news article)? It potentially looks like there will be a few more poker sites that are looking for some Michigan action.

https://www.michigansharp.com/online-poker/

Originally Posted by Shells

I am assuming that you will not have to create a new account but I'm sure you will find out once you log into PokerStarsMI.

Did you happen to read the other news link posted (not a CC news article)? It potentially looks like there will be a few more poker sites that are looking for some Michigan action.

https://www.michigansharp.com/online-poker/

FYI - that article seems to be a little out of date.
Michigan actually amended the bill/law to include interstate poker.

So the only thing left to do is have a poker company launch in Michigan that actually offers that functionality.

Players will only be able to play against their neighbors from the state of Michigan. PokerStars does not allow them to enter the world stage. Perhaps these will be temporary measures and everything will be fine in the future.

Welcome all Michiganders, Go Blue!

Originally Posted by Johnny78B

But I did not see any American players yet in Poker Stars Shells or do they have another PS platforms different from Pokerstars.com? Good news for US players anyway!

it is true, they are not seen. If a lot I see them on the AMC platform

Originally Posted by Shells

What you are stating does make sense but I plan to research it a bit more. This much I did find out (so far) - PokerStars is basically sponsored through the Odawa Casino Resort which makes me wonder what they would in turn pay to the state. (there has to be some money exchange hands otherwise Michigan would have squashed the bill with no further discussions)

In the meantime, I did find an article with even more information about the other potential poker sites planning to come to the state of Michigan.


https://www.michigansharp.com/online-poker/

I believe that answer is quite simple and this answer can be found across all cases where honest, or not so honest, or not honest at all business meets bureaucratic restrictions.

This answer is bribery, that's a rude but honest word, because today this word has mutated to different forms like lobbying, sponsorship, donation and so on... Terrible word was replaced with something less scary, like word propaganda is replaced with advertisement, pr, influence...

Anyway, I believe that PokerStars has found a person or group of persons who can solve the problem with permission for some reasonable cost. However the fact that all money deposits will go directly to online casino owners wallets during short period of time shouldn't be ignored by any government authorities who care about their citizens and neighbors. I do understand that live casino will be paying salaries and will be spending money inside the state or country, but online casinos in majority of cases are pure robbers who "exchange big money for small kilobytes". Too bad that community of players isn't well organised and united to do something about it.

I do believe that some fresh new online poker room with subscription plans instead of the rake will change the situation. This will be fair profit for casino and much bigger winnings for regulars, grinders and pro. Stats of some regulars are so interesting, lots of profitable players who won hundreds of thousands in MTTs have ROI close to or less than +10%, it means that they've generated in rake the same amount that they've won... Wouldn't it be great for such players to pay $100 monthly subscription instead of for example $12K in rake?

I'm all for online poker I just hope we can keep playing live poker, thats how I made a living for a while either way all the best.

Originally Posted by Shells

Anyone playing on PokerStarsMI will only play against others in the state of Michigan... at least for now. They will not be able to play on any of the real money events on PokerStars.com.

So this means that we will not be able to play in the Cardschat freerolls? I have been looking for them in the Pokerstars lobby and thought I was going crazy not finding anything. I should have realized that since I am only allowed to play with other Michigan residents that that would include freerolls as well.

I hope this changes soon!

Originally Posted by zzZeldaxx

So this means that we will not be able to play in the Cardschat freerolls? I have been looking for them in the Pokerstars lobby and thought I was going crazy not finding anything. I should have realized that since I am only allowed to play with other Michigan residents that that would include freerolls as well.

I hope this changes soon!

The only way it would change is if all USA poker players could play under the PokerStars.com skin rather than PokerStarsMI (sadly).

This could be of some interest for Michigan poker players who are playing at PokerStars.

PokerStars in Michigan proves to be successful so far!

Originally Posted by Shells

This could be of some interest for Michigan poker players who are playing at PokerStars.

PokerStars in Michigan proves to be successful so far!

I've made reservations for a few days at the beginning of March, short drive and social distanced holed up in a hotel room for 2 or 3 days playing for real money on Stars, can't wait!

Originally Posted by Shells

How is this bad for Michigan's budget? I am thinking the state likely wouldn't have agreed to this arrangement with PokerStars if they didn't benefit from it somehow.

Not being a financial US taxes expert, I just would like to add that total taxes and payments (from $42,7 million in online gambling/sports betting gross receipts in first ten days) to the state of Michigan by Jan.31 were $4,4 million (since Jan.22 noon).
My country can only dream about budgets like these.

Happy birthday. to all poker users in that state. in the future it will be played at the Olympic Games. Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Shells

The only way it would change is if all USA poker players could play under the PokerStars.com skin rather than PokerStarsMI (sadly).

Okay, thank you for letting me know. I know there are other freerolls that you guys offer on other platforms like Intertops and ACR I believe. Maybe I will try ACR or BCP this Saturday. I always found Intertops interface to be rather horrible in my personal opinion lol but maybe I will try the ACR freerolls. I have played there before a couple random times over the last ten years out of desperation when I really missed playing on Pokerstars.

Originally Posted by belladonna05

I've made reservations for a few days at the beginning of March, short drive and social distanced holed up in a hotel room for 2 or 3 days playing for real money on Stars, can't wait!

I wish you could cross the border and play with the rest of the world! But, that will have to wait for at least another few months.

You know we will be looking for updates once you get to MI.

Originally Posted by DIANTA

Not being a financial US taxes expert, I just would like to add that total taxes and payments (from $42,7 million in online gambling/sports betting gross receipts in first ten days) to the state of Michigan by Jan.31 were $4,4 million (since Jan.22 noon).
My country can only dream about budgets like these.

This is quite interesting. Thanks!