peaceofcoke
Visionary
Bronze Level
This regulations are sickening me, it's like Big Bro is brazzering you. First, I liked it more when I could buy a Paysafe ticket so it wont be shown on my bank statement -prtsonal reasons- Also, a week ago I was pretty drunk and was playing for two hours, I wanted to look at the lobby to see the villain's chip graph curve before making a decision, I mistakenly hit the 24 hrs ban button and boom
dallam
Legend
Loyaler
These moves are just useless. All I can say I feel for all online poker players who are struggleing to make their voices loud. I think it's only every person's responsibility how they spend their time or how they spend their money.
People who play online poker have the chance to grow or to loose. It is the circle. And if you playing seriously, you will not sit an hour constantly, more likely 3-6. Its our hobby, I just can hope that one day it could be accepted as an equal one.
Maybe and a big Maybe goes to the deposit-limits, cause even pros have to be able to build bankroll, and 1000euro seems more than ok.
casinos are different for sure cause there you cannot control what is happening around you. Those activites are more closer to gambling.
My question could be: Could it be better to have one law for every county, or several laws are more better?
People who play online poker have the chance to grow or to loose. It is the circle. And if you playing seriously, you will not sit an hour constantly, more likely 3-6. Its our hobby, I just can hope that one day it could be accepted as an equal one.
Maybe and a big Maybe goes to the deposit-limits, cause even pros have to be able to build bankroll, and 1000euro seems more than ok.
casinos are different for sure cause there you cannot control what is happening around you. Those activites are more closer to gambling.
My question could be: Could it be better to have one law for every county, or several laws are more better?
peaceofcoke
Visionary
Bronze Level
Completely agree, you can put a daily quota for food, for hours spent driving, time spent in the bathroom, amount of beers consumed, you do get the idea
whiskers77
The art of purring
Loyaler
So far I was lucky, that I did not click on this button. Is there no alert before,"hey, your are about to exclude yourself from playing for the next 24 hours"?
I am bothered as well about all new regulations here. Rooms went away from germany,
we get a lot of annoying popups, like you are playing already one hour (e.g. 888) or we will log you out (e.g. PS) and so on.
And things are not implemented to help against gambling addiction.
They are implemented to expel the rooms from Germany, first of all because they want to
get paid taxes from the rooms here and for sure also from the players, if it is somehow possible, although the laws in Germany about the players are not very clear.
I found two very interesting videos about this by lawyers. One is operating in GER and one is operating in GER and austria. Both are in German and pretty long, but full with good information, that you actually should know here in Germany.
And if anyone of you has some deeper knowledge about winnings and taxes here in GER, I would be so glad, if you would share this.
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korbal29
Visionary
Bronze Level
Any gambling regulations that restrict what you can do or not is childish and immature.If anyone can to put those politicians clowns in office,in Germany or anywhere in the world,can do whatever he wants to do with his money.Put a self ban button and the problem is solved,as far as addicted are concerned
jdorganic
Rock Star
Silver Level
WTF good that I’m no longer living in Germany 😄
IzzyMoreno
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Not only in poker, yesterday they passed by law the end for private derivatives trading. Losses may now only be offset against profits in small amounts. All unconstitutional, but still waved through by everyone.
armoko
Legend
Platinum Level
I hope that after some time poker rooms like bet at home and others will figure it out and adjust their rules or whatever to be available again. It's weird that some poker rooms still available like before and some of them not anymore.
toots babos
ex-tornament grinder
Bronze Level
When playing mtts on pokerstars I regularly see a lot of German players who clearly have gambling problems so in a way the restrictions are good for these players however it's not fair on the amount of German players who don't have these problems.
Pokerpoet2
Legend
Loyaler
Luckily Here in the U.K. things have not changed but I think it should as far as slots and other casino games are concerned roulette, blackjack, Bingo and Slots are all designed to cost you money giving the biggest returns to the Casino.
Sure you can win big on some games but the biggest winner's are the Casino's Poker is not a big money spinner for them as they only have the extra buy-in fee and of course you can occupy a seat in a tourney for hours for a small buy-in fee.
Even if you Buy-in for £55 they get the £5 and the £50 goes into the prize pool so if you are in the game for 5 hours they are making £1 per hour out of you, on a slot machine they could make more than that every minute. Don't be fooled by the flashing lights and cute little sounds you hear it is all set up to tempt you to gamble your money away.
When the fun Stops, STOP!
Sure you can win big on some games but the biggest winner's are the Casino's Poker is not a big money spinner for them as they only have the extra buy-in fee and of course you can occupy a seat in a tourney for hours for a small buy-in fee.
Even if you Buy-in for £55 they get the £5 and the £50 goes into the prize pool so if you are in the game for 5 hours they are making £1 per hour out of you, on a slot machine they could make more than that every minute. Don't be fooled by the flashing lights and cute little sounds you hear it is all set up to tempt you to gamble your money away.
When the fun Stops, STOP!
Risto234
põrandaalune pokkerimängija
Loyaler
I wonder what makes you so confident about that and do any other country share same similarities to possible gambling problem ?!? For example ireland ?!?
toots babos
ex-tornament grinder
Bronze Level
Maybe they do, try to not take offence at anything I said, just pointing out my observations in relation to the topic of this thread that I see every session.
Perhaps every country in the world has the exact same similarities, at least the German government is trying to help those with problems.
Now, until there's a thread about Irish poker gambling addicts in the forum I see no need to discuss Ireland or any other country in this thread.
bapfel
Legend
Loyaler
As it seems now also Cardschat games are not available anymore at Partypoker and at 888 in Germany.
Do you have an idea, why in Germany you can still play partypoker.de / Unibet.de / 888 Poker but the Cardschat tournaments are more and more hidden? Freerolls aren`t forbidden in the new regulation I guess..or is it a kind of misconfiguration? Is it allowed to ask Unibet or partypoker.de support about this?
whiskers77
The art of purring
Loyaler
You should not ask them, better ask Debi about this. Well, I did already some time ago and actually, she wanted to ask again there. Not sure so far, if she did already. But at 888 as far as I know, they wonder by themselves so far. The Tuesday games weere visible, but just a temporary addition to the Sunday games...
I also hope, they will come back again somehow, but not sure.
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Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
There is nothing we can do about this - eventually all of the sites will probably ban you from participating in our events.
bapfel
Legend
Loyaler
There is nothing we can do about this - eventually all of the sites will probably ban you from participating in our events.
Hi Debi, that are no good news, did they tell you what is the special problem with the German regulation? Did they forbid freerolls?
Thanks for your help.
whiskers77
The art of purring
Loyaler
I am also wondering, what is the reason to let change the rooms about this. What is the exact paragraph in the new laws, that prohibits freerolls for German players.
It makes absolutely no sense to me as they want to sell the new regulations as a kind of protecting players against gambling addiction. In my opinion freerolls can help players to avoid to gamble away their own money without thinking about this too much. They can prevent tilts and make players more reasonable. If they take this away from the players things can become even worse.
Today I can add $1000 to a room and gamble it away, tomorrow I can do the same, I can do it daily until my whole savings are away. What shall this help?
I also wonder, if they will take away the home games, that are played for play-money, as well. For me this new regulations are complete nonsense.
I wonder what possibilites we have to make a petition against this. If anyone knows or is familiar about this, it would be nice, if you could give us some tipps.
And I wonder how it will develop further at all, because I also read, that the German new regulations are kinda against EU laws, lol.