Hello! I come to bring a doubt! I hope someone who has already gone through this takes my doubts and certainly others in this topic!
We know that many or all poker rooms do not allow you to withdraw the profit from the freeroll after "meeting requirements" .. and it seems to me a very difficult mission to withdraw $ 50 in freeroll earnings for a microstake player..! am I right?

Example:
If i made today a $ 30 deposit and tomorrow won $50 profit in a freerolls, after that i enter a $ 10 buy in tournament..

1)" what money" am I using for this tournament, my deposit money or the money earned on free?
2) Could still redeem my $30 and get the remaining $40? or only could withdraw $20 and the $50 freeroll would be blocked for withdrawal yet?

Help me understand this! Thank you very much for your attention!

yes some poker rooms do that

The better sites have no play-through requirements, it is all your money. If you're not sure, you need to read the fine print or ask support.

Yes what site are you chatting about?
Most have reasonable rules play deposit or freeroll winnings once as a requirement and a few have much more strict impossible nearly to withdraw requirements especially if you select play through requirement bonuses when depositing.

I only play sites where there are no requirements. Having play through requirements is nonsense. You will lose before you clear the balance. I've taken winnings from Pokerstars, Party poker, Coral, Ladbrokes. You have to deposit first so winnings are paid back to whatever method you used to deposit. I read the T&C's on sites before I play, I was stung before on Cake Poker where they wanted me to play through and then when I didn't play for a while they took my balance for "inactivity"

yes some poker rooms do that

You need to read your poker site term of conditions to know how much exactly you need to play out, but I recommend to play only on pokerrooms without such restrictions.

To begin with, I would like to understand what kind of poker room we are talking about. Well, as it were, not one poker room will not allow you to withdraw bonus money without a certain wagering.

Originally Posted by Sintubai

Hello! I come to bring a doubt! I hope someone who has already gone through this takes my doubts and certainly others in this topic!
We know that many or all poker rooms do not allow you to withdraw the profit from the freeroll after "meeting requirements" .. and it seems to me a very difficult mission to withdraw $ 50 in freeroll earnings for a microstake player..! am I right?

Example:
If i made today a $ 30 deposit and tomorrow won $50 profit in a freerolls, after that i enter a $ 10 buy in tournament..

1)" what money" am I using for this tournament, my deposit money or the money earned on free?
2) Could still redeem my $30 and get the remaining $40? or only could withdraw $20 and the $50 freeroll would be blocked for withdrawal yet?

Help me understand this! Thank you very much for your attention!

In what site are you playing ? how the earned money and deposit money are different ?

Poker rooms ask for that, also to make a first deposit, the deposit is to verify the user before making a withdrawal.

Deposit to withdraw is fine. Play through requirements are not. Always check before you play at a site. Like I said, the bigger sites don't do this. Imagine wasting days and months playing freerolls then discovering what you won isn't yours. I've been there and it sucks.

The vast majority of bonuses and play through winnings will never clear without a large investment a lot more than the amount of the bonus. Most people will lose while trying to clear. There is a psychological thing going on. Gamblers will not want to quit while on the mission and will just keep pumping more in.

It reminds me of the slot machine in the bar I used to work. The max payout was £4 jackpot. There was a nudge bank that would gradually fill up to maximum 10 nudges. I've seen people spend their entire wages on the machine only to get to 9 nudges in the bank and come to the bar to borrow money from their next wage. Then go broke and walk away. All for £4

Originally Posted by freestocks

The better sites have no play-through requirements, it is all your money. If you're not sure, you need to read the fine print or ask support.

Thanks! can you list some rooms of your knowledge that do not have these requirements?

Originally Posted by hugh blair

Yes what site are you chatting about?
Most have reasonable rules play deposit or freeroll winnings once as a requirement and a few have much more strict impossible nearly to withdraw requirements especially if you select play through requirement bonuses when depositing.

i'm having trouble withdrawing money at INTERTOPS (THE WORST ROOM TO ME AT NOW!!) i made my first deposit in january (25€), i won more than 50 frequent points in cash games on 2-3 months, i had a profit (60 $)only on cash tables this saturday, and only because i won some little prizes on freerolls, (CC & jackpot) they blocked all my founds to withdrawal.. Ridiculous this on this room !! i have 150€ in my account now and cant cashout NOTHING before requirements .. i cant cashout my deposit value too!! OMG! I have every time check the requeriments status with support.. So ridiculous this room!!!! They want my little money..

Originally Posted by mkdrummey

I only play sites where there are no requirements. Having play through requirements is nonsense. You will lose before you clear the balance. I've taken winnings from Pokerstars, Party poker, Coral, Ladbrokes. You have to deposit first so winnings are paid back to whatever method you used to deposit. I read the T&C's on sites before I play, I was stung before on Cake Poker where they wanted me to play through and then when I didn't play for a while they took my balance for "inactivity"

Thanks to this comment! " having play trough requeriments is nonsense. You will lose before you clear the balance." Thats it!

I even understand some basic requirements for withdrawals, but forcing the player to be stuck in the room in order to withdraw a simple prize is so ridiculous!! better not give any prize in this way! I prefer 1 dollar that I can withdraw than 100 dollars flying!

Originally Posted by ios

You need to read your poker site term of conditions to know how much exactly you need to play out, but I recommend to play only on pokerrooms without such restrictions.

Thanks! you're right! Can you list any poker rooms without such restrictions?

Originally Posted by Alexkaria

To begin with, I would like to understand what kind of poker room we are talking about. Well, as it were, not one poker room will not allow you to withdraw bonus money without a certain wagering.

Im talking about Intertops room!

Originally Posted by fortescue1

In what site are you playing ? how the earned money and deposit money are different ?

Im talking about intertops room.. i deposit 25€ on january, i won 70€ in freerolls, and won 60€ on cash tables. I generate 50 frequent points on cash tables.. I have today like 150€ on my intertpos account, and i cant cashout nothing!! because i won some dollars in freerolls..

Originally Posted by mkdrummey

Deposit to withdraw is fine. Play through requirements are not. Always check before you play at a site. Like I said, the bigger sites don't do this. Imagine wasting days and months playing freerolls then discovering what you won isn't yours. I've been there and it sucks.

The vast majority of bonuses and play through winnings will never clear without a large investment a lot more than the amount of the bonus. Most people will lose while trying to clear. There is a psychological thing going on. Gamblers will not want to quit while on the mission and will just keep pumping more in.

It reminds me of the slot machine in the bar I used to work. The max payout was £4 jackpot. There was a nudge bank that would gradually fill up to maximum 10 nudges. I've seen people spend their entire wages on the machine only to get to 9 nudges in the bank and come to the bar to borrow money from their next wage. Then go broke and walk away. All for £4

Perfect!!! You're so right!!

I didn’t believe this would be possible ... if we win 20 dollars on freerolls (playing dificult hours), we have to spend 500 dollars to see our 20 dollar prize! or almost that.. So Far from reality!!! For me it is not a requirement, its a madness!! The room besides being small is stupid because instead of treating your players well, it creates rules to keep them away!

Originally Posted by mkdrummey

Deposit to withdraw is fine. Play through requirements are not. Always check before you play at a site. Like I said, the bigger sites don't do this. Imagine wasting days and months playing freerolls then discovering what you won isn't yours. I've been there and it sucks.

The vast majority of bonuses and play through winnings will never clear without a large investment a lot more than the amount of the bonus. Most people will lose while trying to clear. There is a psychological thing going on. Gamblers will not want to quit while on the mission and will just keep pumping more in.

It reminds me of the slot machine in the bar I used to work. The max payout was £4 jackpot. There was a nudge bank that would gradually fill up to maximum 10 nudges. I've seen people spend their entire wages on the machine only to get to 9 nudges in the bank and come to the bar to borrow money from their next wage. Then go broke and walk away. All for £4

Top comment @mkdrummey!! Thanks!!

"The vast majority of bonuses and play through winnings will never clear without a large investment a lot more than the amount of the bonus. Most people will lose while trying to clear. There is a psychological thing going on. Gamblers will not want to quit while on the mission and will just keep pumping more in."

Why this???!!!

Yes there are poker rooms that do that. But the good and popular ones all give you what you have earned. For example, like Poker Stars. If you won $ 50 on freerolls, you only need to make a $ 5 deposit.And then you can deduce all the money

Originally Posted by Sintubai

Hello! I come to bring a doubt! I hope someone who has already gone through this takes my doubts and certainly others in this topic!
We know that many or all poker rooms do not allow you to withdraw the profit from the freeroll after "meeting requirements" .. and it seems to me a very difficult mission to withdraw $ 50 in freeroll earnings for a microstake player..! am I right?

Example:
If i made today a $ 30 deposit and tomorrow won $50 profit in a freerolls, after that i enter a $ 10 buy in tournament..

1)" what money" am I using for this tournament, my deposit money or the money earned on free?
2) Could still redeem my $30 and get the remaining $40? or only could withdraw $20 and the $50 freeroll would be blocked for withdrawal yet?

Help me understand this! Thank you very much for your attention!

These are bad poker rooms, they just deceive people by filling their pockets, I think that any winnings should be paid instantly and without restrictions

im new user and can u help me to improve more in this game
best regards tengteng

On larger sites, freeroll win rules are different from bonus deposits. I have already redeemed money won in freerolls at Pokerstars without need of any "Bonus Clearing" activity and this was even simpler than the deposit process.

Originally Posted by Sintubai

Thanks! can you list some rooms of your knowledge that do not have these requirements?

ACR lets you withdraw freeroll winnings.

Interesting, most rooms dont have limits like that, you can do whatever you want with money on your account, except you cant deposit and instantly withdraw. PokerStars even allow withdraw without deposit I think, but I may be wrong

poker sites are there to make money, If they can not make money off of you then they probaly will not pay out! Sometimes places like ACR have freerolls where you can make hundreds if not thousands of dollars, especially with special knockouts and such. To me it is a scam. If you sign up and they accept you as a player, then accept your money, then they do not want to pay out to you then they are a scam. ACR is a great example, I have deposited nearly 2 thousand dollars over 3 years. I contacted them because I hear you have to have a "verified account" before they will process a payout to you. #1 why do they accept my money before they verify my acount? #2 why are they ignoring all my emails now that I sent them all thier required info to verify my account? If you look up most reviews, this is a major issue with the site I mentioned. Phil Nagy and his good for poker phrase is a major problem. I still play there because I love poker, I just keep my deposits small and basically play it as a hobby. I alrerady know if I get lucky and hit a big prize I will never see my money. Watch the ACR stormers on twitch. they always win big prizes, then ask others about their life changing cashouts. just saying.

Depends on the site. Some do some don’t

Intertops no longer operates for UK players, but I remember some years ago when they were on Microgaming there were play through requirements attached to freeroll winnings while other Microgaming sites didn't operate this way.

Cake poker was another one that stung me with this. I had about 20 bucks in there from freerolls and same thing happened. Went to a cash table and blew about 5 bucks because I was feeling tilted. Quit for a few months then when I next tried to log in found my account was closed. When I made enquiries they said my account had been subjected to a charge for inactivity and then closed when the balance went to zero.

A big problem is that these sites hide behind pages of terms and conditions and it's easy for them to move the goalposts. A lot of the time you get a message about updated terms and conditions and are either asked to accept the new terms or sometimes they just say by continuing to play you are deemed to have accepted them. I'm guessing most people wont bother to read the terms because you would be there all day.

I wouldn't make a deposit to a site unless I knew I could trust them now. At least with freeroll winnings you will know fairly quickly if you can withdraw them and if you can't you've only wasted time.

From my experience, certain (if not all, double-check) operators require you to rake a certain % in order to be able to withdraw, especially for freeroll winnings.