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Can anyone give me a good alternative to CoinBase for USA? I am sick of double billing and other problems from CoinBase.

Though not in the USA, Binance is awesome.
 
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Can anyone give me a good alternative to CoinBase for USA? I am sick of double billing and other problems from CoinBase.

You might try gdax.com. Gdax is associated with Coinbase in a way that when you bring up gdax, it will find your Coinbase wallet. It has a published fee structure that looks to be much more favorable 'fee wise'.


I am a little short of being able to transfer my Coinbase account to gdax, but as soon as I can.
 
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Why everything again falling??? Unnecessarily bought in December. Its downhill from there. Its all down.

Down by 1300 dollars last 1 month. wtf. Should have just played poker. :(
 
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Everything dropped except ether. I'm not selling my coins, but I'm not going to buy more.
 
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Support is not happening, and the coins are not looking good. I just moved my entire wallet to a poker site. At least it will hold steady.

I sort of blame the mindset that hodls. Without a robust circulation, all currencies are worth little less than pretty stones. It seems too many are thinking that they can get rich via alt coins.


Most of us missed that boat.:(
 
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The poker sites love transfers using crypto currencies . They can avoid using banks , credit cards and checks which might be an information source for governments seeking tax revenue . Poker players , sports betters and online casino gamblers may also want any potential winnings unnoticed .
 
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It looks like cryptos are moving lower. Buying opportunity or bubble bursting?
 
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Support is not happening, and the coins are not looking good. I just moved my entire wallet to a poker site. At least it will hold steady.

I sort of blame the mindset that hodls. Without a robust circulation, all currencies are worth little less than pretty stones. It seems too many are thinking that they can get rich via alt coins.


Most of us missed that boat.:(



The proof of stake algorithms that some cryptos are moving toward incentivize hodling. Some may have a minimum stake requirement, but others like ada may not, so that you don't have to own a large stake to participate. There are plenty of other arguments in favor of hodling, but those might appear thin given the current circumstances. There are also many factors contributing this downswing, however greed was clearly a factor in the bull run.


I won't be panic-selling, even for a small overall profit, so I'm with Moots and hodling. Many of the coins I'm in are long-term projects, so I'm sticking it out for better or worse. I have to admit though...I wish I had cashed out the principal on most of them (especially TRX) around Jan 5, so I could be freerolling now instead of sticking my head in the sand.
 
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There are also many factors contributing this downswing, however greed was clearly a factor in the bull run.

New crypto-investors who bought BTC when it was 15k and above are never going to invest in anything crypto related again.

I'm sure all the founders and early big investors are in dumping mode. Ripple is under 90 cents :eek: This might be the end :flybye:

I haven't logged into bittrex in the last 2 weeks and probably won't anytime soon :)
 
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It looks like cryptos are moving lower. Buying opportunity or bubble bursting?
BTC might go back to 10-11K, but for now it seems like it will try to hit 7 or maybe 6k first
 
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thanks for the confidence.

BTC might go back to 10-11K, but for now it seems like it will try to hit 7 or maybe 6k first
I think im gonna sell soon if thats true. I really wanted to wait a year to sell thou so i wouldnt be taxed as much.
 
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My first Bitcoin!
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I see you're getting in on the ground floor.
 
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Good thread but shouldn't this be relocated to the offtopic section or at least something other than poker deposits and withdraws?

How could we get a mod to move it?
 
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How could we get a mod to move it?

We could ask nicely. :) Dearest mods, will you please consider moving this thread back to the Player’s Lounge? It was a good catch-all for the crypto threads that are still popping up there, and was really about much more than deposits and withdrawals from poker sites.


Please oh please???
 
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Dont panic... In january last 4 years, crypto currencies dropped. Same pattern repeated. Just stay strong. :) Always keep wat u can lose.. So once invested consider its gone..
 
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Poker has a use. It’s entertaining


Crypto currencies are entirely useless at this point.

There are many use-cases for cryptocurrency. For example, money laundering. #micdrop
 
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We don’t have a “scams and bubbles” forum. Where do you suggest they move it?

Haha, nice photo. Very reflective of your comments here :)

We could ask nicely. :) Dearest mods, will you please consider moving this thread back to the Player’s Lounge? It was a good catch-all for the crypto threads that are still popping up there, and was really about much more than deposits and withdrawals from poker sites.


Please oh please???

+1 Thanks!
 
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There are many use-cases for cryptocurrency. For example, money laundering. #micdrop

Money laundering for sure.


The thing is, there is no way crypto will ever get cheaper than a centralised solution for money transfers. So the only economically valid applications are those where centralised solutions are not an option, which means illegal trades.


I guess you can make the case that some trades should not be illegal. In some cases I do agree and then cryptos do serve a social good, but meh.
 
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The thing is, there is no way crypto will ever get cheaper than a centralised solution for money transfers. So the only economically valid applications are those where centralised solutions are not an option, which means illegal trades.

Are you sure?





https://www.stellar.org/how-it-works/stellar-basics/explainers/

https://www.stellar.org/how-it-works/use-cases/

This is talking about the Stellar platform, not specifically Stellar Lumens (XLM) the cryptocurrency. But by "crypto" I assumed you meant the underlying decentralized blockchain tech. You could argue that the Stellar platform might compete with SWIFT for money transfers, but the cryptocurrency itself might be worthless (people say that of Lumen's crypto-cousin Ripple).


If you were mostly thinking about Bitcoin and other cryptos and their networks that use a proof-of-work algorithm, and have ridiculous fees, then I would agree for now.
 
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Crypto currencies are entirely useless at this point.

This may be the first, and probably only remark you have made that I disagree with.:eek:


In the last week, I have used BTC for a real purpose. I withdrew from one Poker site and deposited at a different site. I filled my wallet with a withdrawal from a site, then depleted that wallet with a deposit, I am 'altcoinless' for the time being. I hope to have the opportunity to do that same thing again. I am in the US, and normal withdrawals from any site have been major PITA's since BF. So in this case BTC was very useful, and actually mitigated some of those PITA problems.


So you just have to change your thinking from 'entirely' useless, to mostly useless.


All the altcoins are too cumbersome to be used as a quick currency. It just isn't gonna replace local cash for a coffee, or at the supermarket. Converting altcoins to local cash, is too slow.


As an investment medium, I think tulips have as much allure as altcoins.
Or even better, pretty, shiny, colored rocks. They would have value after the crash as a garden medium.


I still blame the hodl mindset as the biggest problem altcoins have. With a robust circulation, there is no reason for altcoins, other than the shady side of things.


Second biggest problem is the government involvement. That involvement is telling we, the people, what we can spend our money on. About all they have to do to severely cripple the altcoin world is to publicly announce they are greatly relaxing those financial transaction laws. And with the orange fool in charge, that could easily happen.:eek:
 
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