who shows first...and why

redhand711

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hey,

This is probably a dumb question but after ther river when people show their cards how is it determined who shows first? When I see pros one person shows then the other mucks.

thx
 
Welly

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Unofficially, The one with a poor hand usually holds back a little, hoping the other shows first, which they invariable do (it is common curtosy for strong hands to be revealed without delay), then worst mucks to save face or not reveal a bluff.

Officially however, if every one checks on the final round of betting, then the first player to the left of the button is the first to reveal, then clockwise from there. If there is action on the final round, then the last person shows first (ie the last person to bet or raise).
 
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hey,

This is probably a dumb question but after ther river when people show their cards how is it determined who shows first? When I see pros one person shows then the other mucks.

thx
certainly not a dumb question mate, and not one I've seen answered on here before.
Unofficially, The one with a poor hand usually holds back a little, hoping the other shows first, which they invariable do (it is common curtosy for strong hands to be revealed without delay), then worst mucks to save face or not reveal a bluff.

Officially however, if every one checks on the final round of betting, then the first player to the left of the button is the first to reveal, then clockwise from there. If there is action on the final round, then the last person shows first (ie the last person to bet or raise).

Thanks welly, as we wasnt ever sure when we play our monthly home games. Where did you get this info from?
 
Egon Towst

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This is from Absolute`s website:

"At the end of the last betting round, all players who are left in the hand have a showdown in which the player with the best hand is awarded the pot. It is the obligation of the player who made the last bet or raise (not call) to show her hand first in the showdown.

All cards in a player's hand must be shown face-up on the table to be awarded any part of the pot.

The other remaining players then show their hands in a clockwise fashion. However, the other players do not have to show their hands; if they know they are beaten, they can just concede the pot. Remember that not all hands will reach the showdown stage; very often, a player will win the pot because all other players have folded their cards.

In the interests of efficiency and speeding up the game, a player who is reasonably certain he has the winning hand should turn over his hand immediately, regardless of the order of showdown. If a player does so, then other players at the showdown who can beat that hand should also turn their hands over immediately.

If after final action a hand is shown to one player at the table, then any other player at the table may ask to see the hand, and it shall be shown. If during the course of play of the hand a player flashes his hand to another player before mucking it, any player may ask that the hand be shown to all at the table, but it shall not be shown until after the end of the hand. "

Which is pretty much exactly what Welly said.

The only situation not mentioned in this quote is what happens if every one checks on the final round. I feel certain that Welly is right about that also - showdown begins with the player in the small blind position.
 
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The only situation not mentioned in this quote is what happens if every one checks on the final round. I feel certain that Welly is right about that also - showdown begins with the player in the small blind position.
At the end of the last betting round, all players who are left in the hand have a showdown in which the player with the best hand is awarded the pot. It is the obligation of the player who made the last bet or raise (not call) to show her hand first in the showdown.
The way I read it, it doesn't say the last bet or raise has to be in the last round of betting. If someone bets on the turn, they have to show first at showdown. Not saying that's right, but it's what this quote seems to be saying.
 
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i always thought it was the person who made the bet who shows first
 
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