Do you think its best to wait for dealer to tell you to show your hand?

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I have been doing this and it gets many people at the table very angry at me, saying I'm slowrolling and wasting time. But these players also jump at any opportunity to angle shoot. And I have seen and heard of dealers declaring hands as dead if they were shown too early or before they told you to show them.

Strictly following house rules isn't always easy and it seems better to the flow of the game to not be strict with the rules but then you can become a victim of angle shooting or corruption.

So do you think its better to just ignore all the angry players at the table and keep wasting time by waiting for dealer to say something. Because it seems like many dealers don't say show your hands. They later on realize I'm waiting for them to say it and then they say it.
 
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No you show your hand asp so not to slow down the game.
 
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If I’m not sure when it is my turn I ask.
 
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Yeah people don't like that.

If they have a hand then they'll pay you off anyway.

Its not necessary to kill 5-10mins pretending its the wsop with life changing money when you're playing for basically a buyin at a nl game. People really don't like that.

And even if you think the buy in front of you is a lot and I get that the people at live games are really there to have fun at low limit nl games so don't do it.

I've done it once and the people at the table didn't say anything to me afterwards and I took down a buyin but the response from the person I did it to said A LOT and I don't mean in words.

They just looked at me then got up and went to another table.

And that was enough for me to get the message. I never did that again and I still remember the exact hand many years afterwards.
 
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If I’m not sure when it is my turn I ask.
Thats also a good way to do it.

But I dont think this is about not knowing when to show your hand. If the house rules say you can only show your hand when the dealer has told you to, then you can have your hand declared dead if you show without waiting for them to say it. So this is not about not knowing the poker rules, its about the house rules and the dealers being able to be selective when they enforce it (favoritism/corruption).

Some casinos even have unwritten house rules. You might only find out about it when you are punished for it the first time.
 
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So do you think its better to just ignore all the angry players at the table and keep wasting time by waiting for dealer to say something. Because it seems like many dealers don't say show your hands.
Are you referring to tournaments? Because you're not required to show your hand unless you've won in a cash game.
Whenever I see players "wasting time" for no reason it's usually because they're desperate for attention, imo. No offense, I'm just saying...
Having a table image is just that, an image of you that players will define you by. Players are going to remember you for one thing or another, make sure it's a positive YOU that they remember. ;)
 
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People don't like that and i am one of them, Wasting time for no reason or no benefice, I think its good to keep good image with players and keep it in the positive way, This is my opinion ;)
 
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Are you referring to tournaments? Because you're not required to show your hand unless you've won in a cash game.
Whenever I see players "wasting time" for no reason it's usually because they're desperate for attention, imo. No offense, I'm just saying...
Having a table image is just that, an image of you that players will define you by. Players are going to remember you for one thing or another, make sure it's a positive YOU that they remember. ;)
Yeah it's for cash games.
I would also like if everyone could get along. I know that people generally do anything for money and winning players compete against each other to take all the chips from the bad regs and recs. This causes a bad setting where winning players will obnoxious against each other, harass and bully, angle shoot, cheat to try and make other winning players feel unwelcome and deter them from coming back to play another day by making the time miserable at the table.

So it's just too bad I think that it has to be like that but it's just reality. But I think most winning players also understand we have to also make sure we don't ruin the mood at the table for the recs who are there for fun. So we have to try and kiss their asses constantly at try to entertain them but also treat other winning players very bad and try to give them a bad image.

That's why I ask about this question in this topic. Because if we take another house rule example which could be about the correct way to bet. It's normally accepted to for example if you have 1bb because you are the big blind, someone raises to 2bb, then you throw in a 10bb chip to raise to 11bb. That's normally accepted and everyone bets like that, the dealers never complain, no one complains about it... but technically it's actually againt the house rules in many casinos but they still allow it... until one of the favored (favored by corrupt dealer or the casino) winning players says after one of their competitors (another winning player) makes that kind of raise, they will complain it's against the house rules and should be seen as a call instead.

So that kind of corrupt angle shooting can happen if you don't wait for dealer to tell you to show your hand as well.
I guess you can take a risk and not wait if the pot is relatively small but in my experience the pot is always so big because most pots i play are 3bet and multiway.
 
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Where do you play? ☝️ I live in and play in Texas. That whole concept is somewhat foreign to me. If anyone gets caught cheating here it will be like old-time Vegas. Not necessarily by the card room staff, who will barre your azz, but by the other crazy fux that play here. This is a gun toting/no-concealed license state. So, if someone is stupid enough to try and cheat here, we'll never know about it. I don't know, it might show up in the obituary. :oops:
 
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when a player doesn't know it's better to wait for the dealer to tell you after this action, you can show your hand, but if you've been playing for a long time and you know at the poker table what and when you can show your hand right away and players won't be mad at you, but if you don't know there's nothing shameful about, you can even ask for suggestions
 
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I haven't heard of a rule that you must wait for dealer to ask everyone to show their cards. I don't have a lot of experience, but once someone calls my all in or action is done on river I show after 3-5 seconds. If it's multiple people that checked down the river, I like to see opponents cards first, if I notice I'm beat, I quickly muck.
 
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I have been doing this and it gets many people at the table very angry at me, saying I'm slowrolling and wasting time. But these players also jump at any opportunity to angle shoot. And I have seen and heard of dealers declaring hands as dead if they were shown too early or before they told you to show them.

Strictly following house rules isn't always easy and it seems better to the flow of the game to not be strict with the rules but then you can become a victim of angle shooting or corruption.

So do you think its better to just ignore all the angry players at the table and keep wasting time by waiting for dealer to say something. Because it seems like many dealers don't say show your hands. They later on realize I'm waiting for them to say it and then they say it.
If you're not sure, absolutely you should wait for the dealer, but in most cases you should be able to table your hand without delay.
 
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If there is no more action then just turn your cards over, you don’t have to wait for the dealer. It’s actually kind of annoying sometimes when two players are in a hand, they get to the end and nobody wants to show their hand.
 
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If there is no more action then just turn your cards over, you don’t have to wait for the dealer. It’s actually kind of annoying sometimes when two players are in a hand, they get to the end and nobody wants to show their hand.
I always turn my cards over at the showdown, and I do it for two reasons. First is I might have missed something and actually have a better hand than I thought, and secondly I think people have a right to see what other players had. If I don't turn them over immediately, it will because I'm not sure if everyone has played their hand or not.
 
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Sometimes I don’t know when to show or not so I waited, but it’s more than not that I’ll just show
 
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