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RamdeeBen
Legend
Silver Level
Ahh I was thinking of one of us setting up a home game on pokerstars - I'm now assuming you don't have pokerstars? If so that's probably the best option, if you only play on tilt then I'd have to see if someone would trade some $$$ with me unless you come on pokerstars. SnG HU's I don't mind either.
Vfranks
Legend
Silver Level
vs Yes you both have an A high flush but the one on the left is better because 4 is higher than 3, which is the deciding card since you are playing the same cards down to the 3 and 4.
You have to use the best 5 cards in holdem... AQ964 is better than AQ963
Poof
Made in the USA
Silver Level
I don't, and understand ppl look at things different ways which was why I kept trying, lol
I hope it's clearer now.
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Tammy
Can I help you?
Administrator
Because in the case of the straight (in NLHE), the 5 best cards are on the board. You only use 5 cards to make a hand (including kickers), not 6 or 7. So basically, you and your opponent are 'throwing away' your hole cards (for lack of a better term), because they are not needed. Does that make more sense?
x2486
Rock Star
Silver Level
If you are refereeing to me then yeaha lets get a headups going tonight, should be some easy chips for ya and besides which I need to practise my HU's play. No reason why you shoulden't taken on my challenge?So..... where are you playing?
My comment was just for LOL's, but I'm willing to play some heads-up if you like, though I usually can only play between about 11:00 pm and 1:30 am eastern time, so that might not work for you. I think we did once play in someone else's home game. I can do play money or micro stakes, and I do have a home game account set up on PokerStars (see my signature), though no one has joined. PM me if there's a better time for you I might be able to work it in.
Dreams of Tragedy
dreamsoftragedy.com
Silver Level
Would you believe you are wrong?
You have Quad aces with a K kicker
Your opponent has Quad aces with a Q
you are correct on this one, the king kicker would win the pot. Not the Q high.
But it also depends on the house rules as well, and the site rules
PokerPete
RIP Logic And Sanity
Loyaler
whoa, whoa,whoa....really?
I mean this isn't like "caller must show first" or a "mucked hand is a mucked hand"
...I would think this would be more along the lines of "house rules" that allow JQKA2 as a straight!!! or House rules that say "AA<22" ... basically house rules that I'll never willingly play under
x2486
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yes, I remember this time I was playing Five-card stud High-low with no low qualifier with two friends of mine, but all we had was a Pinochle deck. So one friend gets a royal flush to take the high pot, and the other friend and I both had quad 9's, but my queen kicker beat his king kicker to take the low pot.
Good times...
Pokerstudent
Visionary
Silver Level
Wow!!!!
Yeah, it does seem as if this guy doesn't have a clue. That's only because we already understand the concept and he doesn't. Once he understands it, he won't lose that understanding anymore. Isn't this the site that helps people learn and not make fun of them, no matter HOW ludicrous the lack of understanding is?
Yeah, sure. If he was being cocky, or extremely annoying, jump all over the guy. I get that. But he just didn't understand a concept. Let's give him a break........We're starting to sound like another forum out there.....
Yeah, it does seem as if this guy doesn't have a clue. That's only because we already understand the concept and he doesn't. Once he understands it, he won't lose that understanding anymore. Isn't this the site that helps people learn and not make fun of them, no matter HOW ludicrous the lack of understanding is?
Yeah, sure. If he was being cocky, or extremely annoying, jump all over the guy. I get that. But he just didn't understand a concept. Let's give him a break........We're starting to sound like another forum out there.....
PokerPete
RIP Logic And Sanity
Loyaler
Yes, I remember this time I was playing Five-card stud High-low with no low qualifier with two friends of mine, but all we had was a Pinochle deck. So one friend gets a royal flush to take the high pot, and the other friend and I both had quad 9's, but my queen kicker beat his king kicker to take the low pot.
Good times...
lol...well I played in a bar room freeroll and the guy running it accidentally bought pinochle decks... I knew something was up when the table started with the first three to act raised, re-raised, shoved...I look down and have Q's...and they were SUITED!
x2486
Rock Star
Silver Level
How were people not trying to help him? Each new question by OP received multiple responses with examples to try to help him understand. Were there any mean posts in this thread? Maybe a couple of digs, but nothing compared to a "rigged" thread.
x2486
Rock Star
Silver Level
lol...well I played in a bar room freeroll and the guy running it accidentally bought pinochle decks... I knew something was up when the table started with the first three to act raised, re-raised, shoved...I look down and have Q's...and they were SUITED!
I think we've found the next new game format for Full-Tilt!
It was not easy to come up with a situation where quads+Q beat quads+K for anything without seriously breaking some rules.
Pokerstudent
Visionary
Silver Level
I hear you. I'd say many people tried to help, but there were a couple digs that some would be okay with. Others might not be. But it can be intimidating to newbies when they try to ask a question and get 'digs' tossed their way. It was just my feeling.
But he seem to get the sentiment of some because he said as much in his post.
I did appreciate that most did try to help though. Definitely not a 'rigged' thread IMO.
ben_rhyno
Legend
Silver Level
I can't decide even now after reading every post lol
kmixer
Legend
Silver Level
ITT:
Reasons why PLO is extremely profitable.
This might be because of my nitty nature but this is also why I feel the winning hand is folding a lot to people that think they have a great hand and really have nothing. I guess that is my own fault but if you have a Set of Aces and the straight and or flush is out there and someone bets pot are you really gonna call? Turns out they only had one flush card in their hand.
I guess the real challenge comes in finding who these people are and exploiting them by taking their stack several times.
kmixer
Legend
Silver Level
Ram.....let me see if I can help you here.
If you do not have two cards of the same suit in your hand there is no way you can ever make a flush in Omaha. If you do not have two cards that when added to three cards on the board to make a straight then you do not have a straight. However if you have an A and there are two aces on the board you now have trip aces and your other card would be used as a possible kicker.
Look down at your four cards.
If you you have AcKc8s3d then you can make a flush as long as three of the 5 board cards come out clubs. If you have AcKs4d6h you will NEVER be able to make a flush no matter how many of the same suit there are on the board. The board does not play that way in Omaha. If the board has quads on it you don;t get to use those quads cause you can only use three of them
Hope that helps.
If you do not have two cards of the same suit in your hand there is no way you can ever make a flush in Omaha. If you do not have two cards that when added to three cards on the board to make a straight then you do not have a straight. However if you have an A and there are two aces on the board you now have trip aces and your other card would be used as a possible kicker.
Look down at your four cards.
If you you have AcKc8s3d then you can make a flush as long as three of the 5 board cards come out clubs. If you have AcKs4d6h you will NEVER be able to make a flush no matter how many of the same suit there are on the board. The board does not play that way in Omaha. If the board has quads on it you don;t get to use those quads cause you can only use three of them
Hope that helps.
kmixer
Legend
Silver Level
No I understand that it wasn't. I didn't take it personal
Funny thing is did the OP ever come back? I admit I didn't read the whole thing but I did want to try and help Ram out cause to me it seems like he really wanted to know.
x2486
Rock Star
Silver Level
Ha! I forgot that Ram wasn't the OP. He kind of thread-jacked it with the quads questions. I guess OP must have been satisfied with the first couple of responses.