Already tired of losing constantly going allin with AA pre-flop. So I decided to play differently with high pairs, raise would be enough with high pairs and if some villain go All-in Fold with these hands, regardless of anything ever try the luck against a villain. Respect the villains.It is important to note that if you do not have the humility to fold big hands against smart players, you will never be a winner. In poker I particularly like to hit my Flush and rarely bluff. It's my turn, Fold, if you do not get it right.

Hi. Are you saying that you'd fold AA to an all-in raise pre-flop?

On specific occasions yes, Fold certainly, without a doubt. Just a simple example that would lead me to take this attitude: I am in BB with AA with Stack of 33,000, in the middle of the tournament playing 2 hours. A villain with 60,000 Stack decides to go All-in from the Button. Fold without pity and pity.

Know your opponents

Originally Posted by wsbar

On specific occasions yes, Fold certainly, without a doubt. Just a simple example that would lead me to take this attitude: I am in BB with AA with Stack of 33,000, in the middle of the tournament playing 2 hours. A villain with 60,000 Stack decides to go All-in from the Button. Fold without pity and pity.

That makes sense only in a satellite bubble where you have "locked" the ticket to fold AA pre.Or a huge money bubble MTT.
But it doesn't make any sense to fold this kind of hand in any other situation.
Folding AA or big pairs is a losing play in the short run and in the long run.

Originally Posted by wsbar

On specific occasions yes, Fold certainly, without a doubt. Just a simple example that would lead me to take this attitude: I am in BB with AA with Stack of 33,000, in the middle of the tournament playing 2 hours. A villain with 60,000 Stack decides to go All-in from the Button. Fold without pity and pity.

I can understand the thought process that you use and you are right at a certain point, going All-in preflop is usually one of the least we should do in my opinion if we want to be a winning poker player, but in this particular case I do not think it is beneficial to throw AA preflop specifically unless some situations occur, such as:
- Let it be a pot where several players have done all-in before you, the more players the more likely that someone links a better play.
- That the structure of prizes in the tournament that you are in has significant jumps of position in position, even so, generally it would pay all in unless there are a couple of players with low stack waiting to be eliminated it would be a mistake to play all in in this situation .


As you can see, it is not impossible to fold AA or KK, if given the right circumstances it can be very smart to do it, but as a general rule, I would tell you not to get used to throwing these hands because you will be losing a lot of chips

Don't let the variance change your life outlook partner. Folding aces is only correct in super specific tournament situations against other very deep stacks or sats. where you can fold into success. I would fold aces if I was 250BB deep pre bubble in the Sunday Millions against another big stack, because it doesnt make sense to risk 3 to 1 your money.

I read all the answers and in many ways agree, but do not forget that at the initial stage, the pair AA is only a couple !!! at the remaining stages of the tournament without analyzing the game of the enemy, your chance of winning goes to zero !!! If the opponent is playing on the map and rarely bluffs, then AA can be thrown out, and with an aggressive player you can increase your bankroll!

AA in a long period will still be the winner despite the fact that they move frequently..
you can throw them in the satellite if left to 1 or 2 people, and you have an average stack...
in the more expensive tournament on the bubble in which you have qualified through a satellite

Unless there are some crazy icm factors, you shouldnt be folding AA preflop.

You got it. I always try to ITM, then go for the jugular.

Originally Posted by eberetta1

You got it. I always try to ITM, then go for the jugular.

Yes my friend. Oh yes. When we get to ITM, the lucky war starts, because the blinds are very real.

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I would never fold AA preflop, in any situation

in most cases you will be relieving AA of weak hands, at a distance it is a minus

I think far too many players will get AA starters and then stop playing. I mean they think they got the nuts and don't really consider how the board is developing out. They fail to consider what is happening on the Turn and River. Remember it is only a pair, sure its top pair but only a pair. There is a lot that can develop that beats that top pair. Especially in a game like Texas/Omaha.

I think you are wise to be ready to dumb them if need be. Most players can't do that with AA. All of us have experienced having AA and some donk goes all-in with rags on us. Only to have them hit something that kills us.

There are a few instances where I would fold AA preflop. If there are already multiple people in the hand and I am calling for all my chips, I will fold AA and pick a better shot to put in my money. I understand that I may be the favorite at that moment, but with multiple players I am still worse than a coin flip and feel I can outplay my opponents on hands.

If I am sorely shortstacked I will still call.

Going all in with AA against one, even two, opponents preflop is something I would do 100% of the time in cash. In tourneys I would consider folding if right on the bubble and getting unlucky would be the difference between cashing and not cashing. I.e., if I am comfortably in the money already and taking this risk offers way more downside than up.

not stop playing AA pre-flop just because the variance this to your advantage, AA is a hand that will lose many times against worse hands but that does not mean you're playing badly is the best hand you could get pre-flop and you should not throw away just because you've had some bad beat,in the long run you will win many more hands than with AA pocket

I would recommend continuing to study.

If you dont play AA here (which is the Best possible hand preflop), which hands would you play there? None I guess..Well Not playing any hands with blinds increasing quickly doesnt Sound like a good plan to me..

Originally Posted by wsbar

Already tired of losing constantly going allin with AA pre-flop. So I decided to play differently with high pairs, raise would be enough with high pairs and if some villain go All-in Fold with these hands, regardless of anything ever try the luck against a villain. Respect the villains.It is important to note that if you do not have the humility to fold big hands against smart players, you will never be a winner. In poker I particularly like to hit my Flush and rarely bluff. It's my turn, Fold, if you do not get it right.

You raised a Good point here it happened to me many time to over estimate AA/KK/QQ and lost many times with this kind of hand so I came to the point that whatever you do Raise / re-raise/ float call go all in slow roll them, those hands are meant to lose// The only way to win with those hands is to call a player who is going all in each hand or to play them only on POKERSTARS on American Card Room you lose with your Aces but in Poker stars aces are previliged.

"Aces are Larger than Life and Greater than Mountains" Mike Caro

Good point and good discipline here

Originally Posted by wsbar

On specific occasions yes, Fold certainly, without a doubt. Just a simple example that would lead me to take this attitude: I am in BB with AA with Stack of 33,000, in the middle of the tournament playing 2 hours. A villain with 60,000 Stack decides to go All-in from the Button. Fold without pity and pity.

As noted above there are only very specific ICM situations where this is correct to fold AA. Middle stages where you have a while to go before getting ITM, heads up, button push (any other position as well) this should be where you cannot hit the call button quick enough.

Preflop AA is the best hand, so I will not Fold unless you have inside information about the villain,


I will pay anytime!

I think once i am fold pair of aces preflop....Its be satt for big event and i get the ticket.Not see how i ever fold aces,even in bubble.

Originally Posted by miamia

I think once i am fold pair of aces preflop....Its be satt for big event and i get the ticket.Not see how i ever fold aces,even in bubble.

On these occasions I also agree on Fold AA pre-flop.

Hopefully everybody reads this article and stops going all-in all the time with high pairs. IT IS JUST A PAIR UNTIL THE BOARD DEVELOPS TO YOUR FAVOR!!!! You have still 3 betting rounds, if it's poker, what you are playing!BTW, I bet he had kings and would have won with a flush against a straight, nice fold!

I would say it's ok to fold if you have over 100 BB and you are really deep and someone shoved for 120 BB... But I'm still probably not folding haha

Originally Posted by drcarloshimg

Preflop AA is the best hand, so I will not Fold unless you have inside information about the villain,


I will pay anytime!

Can you clarify exactly what "information" you might have that would result in you folding AA pre flop?

Mainly in Live Poker, Someone with an aura coming from heaven,
a Nervous person that is a friend of the dealer, some players colluding in non official language that I can understand.

Its very bad fold this.. Fold kk in three pot allin ok in some situations, but aces...

Originally Posted by starting_at_the_bottom

Can you clarify exactly what "information" you might have that would result in you folding AA pre flop?

I think he was unhappy in that comment.
Unless the opponent's only information is related to "luck". Type: I Fold AA against a Donk who was All-in pre-flop with 72o and made Full House on the Flop.

ant see myself folding AA preflop, regardless who my opponents were...

I'm always with a pair of AA or KK go ollin preflop. Let the opponents guess what to do.

Please never fold AA preflop just because you're scared of losing, you can't be a poker player with that mindset. You need to accept and embrace the variance. Sure it sucks getting sucked out on, but it's part of the game. When you're a 4:1 favorite (AA vs KK for example), you're going to lose 20% of the time. It happens. If you can't understand and embrace that, poker is not for you.

Originally Posted by Grantadvo24

I would say it's ok to fold if you have over 100 BB and you are really deep and someone shoved for 120 BB... But I'm still probably not folding haha

The opposite of this... you have an 80%+ chance of making 100BBs! It is NOT ok to fold away this advantage. How else can you make 100BB with such a high certainty? Do you expect to have the nuts on the river and get calls for 100BBs?

Again there are some extreme sat tourney and money bubble examples where it is correct to fold AA, but even very deep call this.

As I said. I would call

Again your talking online poker right? In my thinking youre best to play a drawing game online, limp when ever you can, and see what the board brings your way. With strong starters like those A's If someones all in happy, you got to call even if he has a 2-1 stack on you. I'd even say limp to that guy and hope he shoves.

Call the monkey and wish him luck on his seven deuce off. Don't play scared.....breathhhh.

I think If we want to be a good poker player We should study day after day. There are many ways to play a couple of cards in only one position. Furthermore, you have to play the player . In all this time I have found out that poker is not a simple card game .