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[MrPokerVerse]

What buy in are you playing at and over what sample size?

Because if the regular speed DoN's are THAT soft then I may need to dive in.

5.00 buy, non turbo. Should be able to average 7 out of 10.

 

[WurlyQ]

5.00 buy, non turbo. Should be able to average 7 out of 10.

Do you have a significant sample size (1000+) winning 70% of 5.40 DoNs or are you speculating that it is an achievable number? There are exactly two players according to tracking leaderboards who have a higher per game winrate at the $5s over their last 500 games and neither of them play on Stars.

 

[blott]

I wish FT had this kind of tournament it sounds interesting... but I don't feel like downloading another poker app lol.

you need FT. EVERYONE has FT for it's great range of games. I had 100 rooms downloaded til this morning when I got a memory message

uninstalled about thirty I never play at and some more will go when I get motivated again. Previously only had dial up so each download would take 30 mins or more. Not a problem now though with broadband.

oops you have FT don't you. well try Stars then for coolers.

 

[MrPokerVerse]

Do you have a significant sample size (1000+) winning 70% of 5.40 DoNs or are you speculating that it is an achievable number? There are exactly two players according to tracking leaderboards who have a higher per game winrate at the $5s over their last 500 games and neither of them play on Stars.

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Haven't played 1000+ games. Those I felt could be achieved from what I had played and yes it is specultive. That format to be honest didn't hold my interest. I don't play multitables, one table at a time and the action will lull you to sleep. However for those looking to build a bankroll and not looking to play free rolls for hours at time to cash, these would be the way to go.

 

[gallopingael]

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Haven't played 1000+ games. Those I felt could be achieved from what I had played and yes it is specultive. That format to be honest didn't hold my interest. I don't play multitables, one table at a time and the action will lull you to sleep. However for those looking to build a bankroll and not looking to play free rolls for hours at time to cash, these would be the way to go.

At the 5 Turbos, 6/10 (15%) is within the realm of possibility for the best players. To have a similar hourly rate you'd have to win 7/10 in the regular speed games. It could be possible. I've never played a regular speed DoN so I don't really know. The competition could be weak enough to make that possible. You won't find as many regs in the non-turbos.

1 table at a time would cause me to look for a very tall building.

 

[MrPokerVerse]

At the 5 Turbos, 6/10 (15%) is within the realm of possibility for the best players. To have a similar hourly rate you'd have to win 7/10 in the regular speed games. It could be possible. I've never played a regular speed DoN so I don't really know. The competition could be weak enough to make that possible. You won't find as many regs in the non-turbos.

1 table at a time would cause me to look for a very tall building.

LOL hope your wearing a cape on that building.

 

[salim271]

oops you have FT don't you. well try Stars then for coolers.

Yeah I do lol I know the feeling of being tired and typing something wrong as a result... hmm maybe i should check out poker stars dunno... im bad at change

 

[PJJH]

Stay tight, and steal blinds as the blinds go up.

 

[kidkvno1]

Hard for them to shove on you when you've already shoved on them.

after the 50/100 level you really shouldn't be trying to "play" poker. It's pretty much a binary game at that point, push or fold.

I only shove on the flop, or when i'm short stacked.
I play poker, not shove fold.

I play DON's just like a SNG, it seems to be working for me just fine..

 

[AceZWylD]

I only shove on the flop, or when i'm short stacked.
I play poker, not shove fold.

I play DON's just like a SNG, it seems to be working for me just fine..

Good strategy in the early stages. Mid to late, I want you sitting at my table.

 

[gallopingael]

Mid to late, I want you sitting at my table.

QFT

 

[salim271]

Ways you can be sure you're tagged as a loser on Pokerstars:
1. You win the first few sessions.
2. You start losing after those first few winning sessions when everything seemed peachy. (Early sign and bad).
3. In the double or nothings, your AA, KK are busted about 40% of time when all in pre flop (average is 20% of time, a huge difference and enough right there to ensure you're a losing player).
4. Your AQ always runs into AK, your AJ always runs into AQ.
5. You win 30% of your coin flips (you're supposed to win 50%)
6. You fail to make more than 15% of your flush or straight draws...you're supposed to make 30% or more of them.
7. This is important in the double or nothings: You see one or two good hands early on....but as the tourney drags on you get NO CARDS AT ALL with action all around you. Later on you shove in late position and are instantly called by a monster in the small or big blinds....and if you're playing in 10 tourneys this happens in 7 or more of them.
8. Your JJ always runs into bigger pocket pairs late on....remember that late on the table is short handed and this shouldn't happen that often...JJ should be a monster.
9. You flop a monster and cannot slow play it without being outdrawn all of the time. (I've run into sequences where I flop a set with a rainbow on the board and get outdrawn trying to slow play the monster for a big pot...my record is 5 busted sets in a row). What it means is that your sets (mainly) only win peanut sized pots.
10 Bear in mind, this won't happen on ALL of your double or nothings...Pokerstars will only fix it so that you lose the small MAJORITY of them...that ensures you're a losing player.

Stop playing on pokerstars if you feel that way? There ARE other sites....

 

[gallopingael]

Stop playing poker

there...fixed your post.

And thank you spurssss for the LOL worthy post. It was an entertaining piece of fiction. Best I've read since The DaVinci Code.

 

[Debi]

I moved spurrssss' post to the rigged thread.

 

[Roger1960]

The thing about percentages is they are just numbers, the cards come the way the cards come. Going all in preflop is bingo not poker, if you are not severly short stacked there really isn't a reason to do this.

 

[WurlyQ]

Stop playing on pokerstars if you feel that way? There ARE other sites....

there...fixed your post.

And thank you spurssss for the LOL worthy post. It was an entertaining piece of fiction. Best I've read since The DaVinci Code.

I moved spurrssss' post to the rigged thread.

Haha, that post was so lol I almost responded to it.

I'm going for Platinum Star in January playing all DoNs. I've never achieved it before so we'll see how much discipline there is in me!

 

[salim271]

there...fixed your post.

And thank you spurssss for the LOL worthy post. It was an entertaining piece of fiction. Best I've read since The DaVinci Code.

Hahaha why thank you for fixing it for me

 

[spurssss]

I just played 5 tourneys 20.80 double or nothings at the same time. Sensational starting cards. I had AK suited twice. AK off suite twice. I had AQ suited once, AQ off twice. AA once. 10 10 once. 99 once. I played a total of less than 30 hands BETWEEN ALL 5 TOURNEYS. Lasted under 10 mins in all. Lost EVERY HAND. Whether I had overcards or under pair I lost. And the AA was toast against one lone pre-flop caller of my raise. He had a huge 6 5 off suit and flopped 2 pair which held up.

It's simply not in the normal scheme of things to get dealt such obviously amazing hands so early in 5 tourneys at the same time and just happen to come up against either monsters or lose every coin flip. It has relevance here in this thread because it makes a mockery of on line double or nothing strategy advice. Please don't move it to the rigged thread.

Basically after taking such a hiding my advice would be, fold every hand until the blinds get huge and then push in late position and hope no-one calls you no matter what you're holding.

 

[WurlyQ]

I just played 5 tourneys 20.80 double or nothings at the same time. Sensational starting cards. I had AK suited twice. AK off suite twice. I had AQ suited once, AQ off twice. AA once. 10 10 once. 99 once. I played a total of less than 30 hands BETWEEN ALL 5 TOURNEYS. Lasted under 10 mins in all. Lost EVERY HAND. Whether I had overcards or under pair I lost. And the AA was toast against one lone pre-flop caller of my raise. He had a huge 6 5 off suit and flopped 2 pair which held up.

It's simply not in the normal scheme of things to get dealt such obviously amazing hands so early in 5 tourneys at the same time and just happen to come up against either monsters or lose every coin flip. It has relevance here in this thread because it makes a mockery of on line double or nothing strategy advice. Please don't move it to the rigged thread.

Basically after taking such a hiding my advice would be, fold every hand until the blinds get huge and then push in late position and hope no-one calls you no matter what you're holding.

[ ] Big sample size
[ ] Understands how to play DoNs
[x] He's back!

... couldn't resist.

 

[spurssss]

I've played over 500 DON's in the past 3 weeks. (Don't talk to me of sample sizes). I play for fun, the amounts involved are peanuts. I'm a poker addict. I can't always get to a bricks and mortar game.

I also happen to think there are patterns to the on-line cards that cannot be explained by randomness.

For example, last night I played 40 DON's. I play 8 at a time. On one batch of 8 I was dealt AA 5 times which is a LOT when one considers each tourney, assuming you finish 1st, will consume no more than 55 - 85 hands. On each occasion I was dealt AA I was in the big blind....and EVERYONE folded to me.

On another batch of 8 during late big blind tourney play I shoved into AA from late position 5 times and lost the lot.

On ANOTHER batch of 8 I found myself heads up with my KK all in 5 times pre-flop and lost the lot.

I'm running around 48% in the DON's...over THOUSANDS of tourneys, which even with the rake added on is not that big a loss...but it all adds up to being a losing player, albeit for amounts I don't care about, and through no real control of my own. My biggest failure is my total addiction to the game.

 

[WurlyQ]

I've played over 500 DON's in the past 3 weeks. (Don't talk to me of sample sizes). I play for fun, the amounts involved are peanuts. I'm a poker addict. I can't always get to a bricks and mortar game.

I also happen to think there are patterns to the on-line cards that cannot be explained by randomness.

For example, last night I played 40 DON's. I play 8 at a time. On one batch of 8 I was dealt AA 5 times which is a LOT when one considers each tourney, assuming you finish 1st, will consume no more than 55 - 85 hands. On each occasion I was dealt AA I was in the big blind....and EVERYONE folded to me.

On another batch of 8 during late big blind tourney play I shoved into AA from late position 5 times and lost the lot.

On ANOTHER batch of 8 I found myself heads up with my KK all in 5 times pre-flop and lost the lot.

I'm running around 48% in the DON's...over THOUSANDS of tourneys, which even with the rake added on is not that big a loss...but it all adds up to being a losing player, albeit for amounts I don't care about, and through no real control of my own. My biggest failure is my total addiction to the game.

[ ] Big sample size
[x] Likes the numbers 5 and 8
[x] Needs to just learn how to play because this is getting less fun for me

Oh, and I added a list of all hands I got it in with trips+ on the flop or turn this year fyp. Clearly, I should wait until the turn to get it in and clearly, this game is rigged.

 

[gallopingael]

I've played over 500 DON's in the past 3 weeks. (Don't talk to me of sample sizes).

In a game where 1k game breakeven stretches are not unheard of for even good players, 500 games is nothing.

 

[rhulp1]

the low buyin DoN is not worth playing.

buyin = 1.20 (20 cent for the pokersite)
if you win you win 80 cent, if you lose u lose $1.20

so you have to win 60% of the time for a break even

 

[gallopingael]

the low buyin DoN is not worth playing.

buyin = 1.20 (20 cent for the pokersite)
if you win you win 80 cent, if you lose u lose $1.20

so you have to win 60% of the time for a break even

It's only 10% at PS (15 for the non-turbos) and with the competition as weak as it is, they are certainly worth playing if you're building a BR.

 

[Dreams of Tragedy]

just play your normal game.....and if it don't work work on it.....you will have different people at different times....there no really a good answer to this