Arjonius
Legend
Silver Level
All fish are not the same. It's sub-optimal to assume they are since it leads to playing against them all the same way.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
okeedokalee
Glory To Ukraine
Loyaler
"He even plays KK the same way as I saw him show down a hand where he just limped in from sb after someone else had limped. And he just called 3 bets after that."
He was trapping with the kings.The limper showed no strength and there was only the BB left.had he raised the limper would have folded as would the BB.
The only way to get value from the KK was to limp and hopefully check/raise if the limper or BB hit a pair on the flop.
This guy was playing a winning style that is why he had a stack.
The bets against your JJ and QQ were because he read you as capable of folding on threatening boards, if you appear tight LAGs will test your nerve all night.
It might cost you a buy-in ( small a micro anyway ) but you have play back at these players to find out what they are doing.
He was trapping with the kings.The limper showed no strength and there was only the BB left.had he raised the limper would have folded as would the BB.
The only way to get value from the KK was to limp and hopefully check/raise if the limper or BB hit a pair on the flop.
This guy was playing a winning style that is why he had a stack.
The bets against your JJ and QQ were because he read you as capable of folding on threatening boards, if you appear tight LAGs will test your nerve all night.
It might cost you a buy-in ( small a micro anyway ) but you have play back at these players to find out what they are doing.
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
B
BlueNowhere
Legend
Silver Level
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
Why would we want to do this ^
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
What? Come on.. no way.Someone (Belladonna I believe), recently compared me to BBB. I was shocked.
Although.... the other day someone compared me to this >
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blueskies
Legend
Loyaler
Whether I screwed up royally or not, this particular guy I mentioned in the opening post is a fish. You don't lose hundreds of bucks at 4NL unless you're terrible.
He was running good, and I was running bad.
The trouble is that during such times (no fold equity, cards go against me), it seems impossible to win.
He was running good, and I was running bad.
The trouble is that during such times (no fold equity, cards go against me), it seems impossible to win.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
More inane thoughts...
U all wanted fish in the game, quit bitching when you get them. I on the other hand have always supported those noobs learning the game using play money.
When swimming with the school of fish, you can not be a shark. You will look like the fish, and the real killer whale will eat you all alive.....in one gulp.
Those inane thoughts aside. What I have found is that those situations, which I actually look for, where the table is passive, present great opportunities. Learn the post flop game. Seems to be more apparent in PLO, 6max. I can sit down and play tight for a long time while others are doing all the work, and the instant a limper sits down and alters the temperament of the table, I join in with the limper. Tends to tone down the table, and 2 limpers at a PLO 6max table will make poker the focus, rather than just the isolated agro aspect of poker.
That's when the post flop part of the game pays off.
U all wanted fish in the game, quit bitching when you get them. I on the other hand have always supported those noobs learning the game using play money.
When swimming with the school of fish, you can not be a shark. You will look like the fish, and the real killer whale will eat you all alive.....in one gulp.
Those inane thoughts aside. What I have found is that those situations, which I actually look for, where the table is passive, present great opportunities. Learn the post flop game. Seems to be more apparent in PLO, 6max. I can sit down and play tight for a long time while others are doing all the work, and the instant a limper sits down and alters the temperament of the table, I join in with the limper. Tends to tone down the table, and 2 limpers at a PLO 6max table will make poker the focus, rather than just the isolated agro aspect of poker.
That's when the post flop part of the game pays off.
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
So we want to leave tables that have calling stations on them? I'm confused
blueskies
Legend
Loyaler
JOEBOB69
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
It sucks but i'm not leaving the table
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cas...february-cash-thread-206217/post-1858009.html
blueskies
Legend
Loyaler
It's hard to leave because you keep getting that potential double up carrot dangled in front of you but more times than not, you never actually get that carrot.
Tonight it's a 53/18 guy ripping me up. I never lost the whole stack on anything but he got me three times (I had to fold twice after the big ace missed -- he showed me one time and he did flop top pair -- and another time I just had to fold with 4 suited cards on the board). Finally doubled up once against him but overall still down to him.
Now at another table with another one sitting on my right. This guy loves to call any raise and then check raise the flop.
Seems to be a crazy way to play but he hasn't been burned yet. Passive pre, super aggro post. Amazing stuff.
IF I get anything I should be able to double up... but he hasn't lost a pot yet. Same story.
Just 20 hands in though, so it's still early.
EDIT: He just ripped up QQ with 93 as I wrote this. Luckily I wasn't the vict.
Tonight it's a 53/18 guy ripping me up. I never lost the whole stack on anything but he got me three times (I had to fold twice after the big ace missed -- he showed me one time and he did flop top pair -- and another time I just had to fold with 4 suited cards on the board). Finally doubled up once against him but overall still down to him.
Now at another table with another one sitting on my right. This guy loves to call any raise and then check raise the flop.
Seems to be a crazy way to play but he hasn't been burned yet. Passive pre, super aggro post. Amazing stuff.
IF I get anything I should be able to double up... but he hasn't lost a pot yet. Same story.
Just 20 hands in though, so it's still early.
EDIT: He just ripped up QQ with 93 as I wrote this. Luckily I wasn't the vict.
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