flush and straight draws

[Igor An]

Hello. help me, can not learn how to play with flush and straight draws, please give advice on how to play preflop, turn and river.

 

[blueskies]

depends on stack size, position, opponent etc

 

[This Fish Chums]

Drawing hands for beginners

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

 

[Jockerist]

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

Nothing to add. All perfectly explained. Like on the shelf.

 

[Manifestor]

it all depends on the stack and the number of bets before you
but as for me the flush is easier to catch than the straight, in the flush of outs more

 

[steeler1970]

Hello. help me, can not learn how to play with flush and straight draws, please give advice on how to play preflop, turn and river.

I think the best way to play it is to treat it like a draw and never go all in and to bet as less as you can in till you hit it and then check and wait for someone to bet and then raise them but be care full in less you have the highs card to the flush in your hand​

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[VITOS]

The most common draw poker hand is a flush draw and a straight draw . Possessing one of the gorse, you should know that you could fulfill its draw (ie to collect the desired combination). And you can define your likely counting the number of outs.
Out - Card, the output of which will help to complete our business. For example, if you have the Bubnov flush draw , any diamonds card will be considered as your an out, because if the board comes another one diamond, you will be ready to flash. The more outs you have, the better the chances that you can assemble a made hand with the next card.
For example, with a diamond flush draw (yes, in principle, you can take any suit of cards). In this case, we will have 9 outs, as the 2 of diamonds cards in our hands, and another 2 - the flop. A total of 13 Bubnovs deck of cards, so 13-2-2 = 9 Bubnovs cards in the deck that will help us improve your starting hand to "flash" the combination.
Likewise, we can count the number of outs and more likely. In poker emit two kinds of straight draw: leaky straight draw and an open straight draw or OESD (open straight straight-draw) . Open straight draw also called a two-way straight draw. Thus, OESD - a situation when the output of any of the cards on the edges of your straight draw gives you a ready-Street .
Thus, the bilateral street-dro we will have 8 misses (4 and four-ki-ki 9) and with openings in a direct draw - only 4 exits (four 6 c). It means that if we have OESD, we more likely will execute their combination on a sloe or the Po River to comparison with the internal street-dro.

 

[grogrich]

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

Very nice, thank you guy, and follow this post to learn how you call ou bet.

 

[8bod8]

Have a look here, and at the other strategy articles:
https://www.cardschat.com/odds-for-dummies.php

It's all about how many chips is (on average) profitable, looking at odds and outs.

 

[marakhovskii]

the best moment for you is a straight straight flush draw and then play safely the rest of the trash...

 

[Fishmasterbaiter]

Great post!

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

This is great advice for beginners and seasoned poker players alike! Well explained and simple to understand. Excellent post. Thank you!

 

[RedGnom]

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

Poker would not be old self if everyone has been played by the rules.....

 

[infiniti888]

If you have an ACE, you can make a raise. Without ACE small probability of winning.
If the hand Nut straight or Nut flush, you can safely give not a lot, cause they can fall, but if small, then fear reraise.

 

[Max Diver]

Great explanations of the other friends. Good thing about poker is any hand is a different story. Many things can happen. That´s one of the great things about this game.
Cheers.

 

[raimundox44]

You are playing against a tight player: Raise!!

 

[Igor An]

thanks, very informative answer, I'm already trying in practice

 

[BlackMamba]

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.

This is a very good answer to the question. I'll take that into consideration. Thank you.

 

[Eric_A]

Should raise preflop if you have A premium hand otherwise it is not worth doing preflop raise without an ACE is unlikely, or just call to see what comes on the flop and talk after.

 

[Fishmasterbaiter]

Well said!

Very well stated. There is a great beginners poker instructional here if you fish around for it. It lays out all the strategies, etc involved with draws and such for beginners. I was just checking it out the other day. I completely agree about not bluffing on a missed draw. Folks can sniff that out a mile away.

NOTE: This is intended as a "starter" strategy for someone who knows nothing about drawing hands.

Pre-flop, only play if you can get in the hand for 1-2 BBs.

On the flop, you have 3 options (assuming you have 4 to a flush or straight):

1. If you're acting first or early, throw out a feeler bet of 1-2 BBs.
   1. If people fold, great.
   2. If people call, not a big deal.
   3. If someone bets big, just fold.
2. If someone else bets more than 3BBs, just fold.
3. If it comes around to you and the bet is 1-2BBs then go ahead and call.

On the turn, you now have to consider the size of the pot as well as the size of the bets. This is too complicated to go over in a short post, but learn about "pot odds" to improve on this very basic suggestion.
On the turn, you want to judge whether you should continue or not based on the size of the bet (what you'll risk losing) compared to the size of the pot (what you could win). If you have a good sized stack and someone bets 25% of the pot, then go ahead and call. It's worth the risk. If someone bets 50% of the pot, only call if you have a draw PLUS something else, like a pair, or another draw (straight and flush draws together). If someone bets moer than 50% of the pot, go ahead and fold, you shouldn't have invested too much into the hand as of yet.


On the river, fold. If you missed your draw DO NOT try bluffing. Many people can recognize a busted draw hand and will either call or re-raise you. Don't throw good chips after a missed draw.